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Old 12-16-2007, 09:53 AM   #33 (permalink)
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WARNING! WARNING! WEAPON TIRADE DETECTED! WEAPON TIRADE IN... 5 SECONDS.

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Originally Posted by Fire
Sorry to disagree crompsin, but swords are not easy to incapacitate someone with and guns are not easy to use - I train with both, though I have more years in with the sword, a gun is not some simple point and click interface- a gun eliminates a lot of the need for muscle, but none of the need for skill- Please do not confuse the two.
Gun: You manipulate the firearm, not the projectile. The bullet from a fat midget's AK47 is the same powerful bullet from a ninja bodybuilder's AK47.

Sword: You manipulate the blade, which is the projectile. You are the propellant.

I already stated that it is harder to incapacitate someone with a sword. Range would be the primary factor. Guns? OH SNAP, I can do it from across the room.

A firearm IS a simple point-and-click interface. I've retrained a dozen morons on how to hit targets at 300 yards with the M4. Anybody can do it. There is a reason we use guns and not swords in our military today. Three factors: Range, lethality, and they're easier to master.

Swords? Require balance, strength, dexterity... traits that not every has, traits that you can't necessarily learn.

People that survive gunshots? Well, they need to be shot by bigger guns. If you're gonna do it, do it right. Homeowners that utilize .38 Special and 9mm ball ammo should invest in a 12 gauge with 00 buckshot. Concealed carry permits make mouse guns popular. Physics hasn't changed with fashion, however, and it still takes a certain amount of Oomph! to kill a man.

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Originally Posted by Fire
I prefer to look at it from the philosophical standpoint that "there is the sword that kills and the sword that gives life." a weapon that is used for defense, or to stop a greater evil is a sword that gives life......
I prefer to look at it from a logical standpoint: The more technology you have in a process = the less human you have in that process. A sword is more "honorable" because it requires more skill to utilize than a firearm because more of YOU is involved in wielding it. A sword represents a closer-to-natural combat approach with hand-to-hand being the most honorable of fighting styles. A firearm is the most inexpensive and furtherest detachment from personal combat you can carry in your hands right now.

Swords are honorable but defending your house with one is "not the best idea ever." I'd recommend a large dog or a shotgun or maybe some land mines.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_
Personally I'm not a fan of swords. I'd have no problem belting an intruder with a chunk of wood, or sticking them with a carving knife.
Chunk of wood indeed! Table legs for everyone!

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I hope that dumb redneck vigilante turd in Texas gets life.

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Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct
...except that he has a modified choke when a home defense gun should really use a cylinder choke.
Uhm... not necessarily. Depends on the load used and how fat of a "range cigar" you want with said load. IC works real "grood" too.

Now, if he was tossing 00B out of a Mossberg 500 with a 28" tube with a full choke? That'd be kinda silly... but sweet-Jeebus... imagine the wounds!
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