Well, first off I was mainly making the post because I thought the complete hypocrisy of hillary clintons campaign, specifically to this issue, was damn funny as it ties to attacking a rival in the democrat race.
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Originally Posted by host
I think that I did "make something else out of it. Something closer to what actually happened, than Mike Allen at politico, the Clinton campaign staff, the NY Sun editorial board, dksuddeth, or you have made out of it.
My main point is that there was no basis for Mike Allen's article, since he couldn't confirm that Obama ever knew of the questionnaire of 11 years ago.
There is no basis for belief that Clinton read or approved the press release about Obama's campaign being "put on the defensive" by the politico article.
So, again, what is there to discuss? Last night, I posted a report of Bush denying knowing of the existence of the destroyed CIA tapes, until last thursday, and whether his denial conflicted with reports of Harriet Meiers, the asst. white house chief of staff, knowing about the tapes, and admonishing the CIA not to destroy them, back in 2003.
Can you see why there is something to discuss about that, but not enough, here? There are no reports that Obama knew about the questionnaire or that he filled it out himself. There are no reports that Clinton knew about the campaign PR related to the politico article.
How do you decide what, and what not...to discuss. Is it all a visceral process, with you?
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Secondly, Obama was an Illinois state senator out of the chicago area. This alone tells me he's an anti-gun nut. That and the following,
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'Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality
I believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities, and that our leaders must say so in the face of the gun manfuacturer's lobby. But I also believe that when a gangbanger shoots indiscriminately into a crowd because he feels someone disrespected him, we have a problem of morality. Not only do ew need to punish thatman for his crime, but we need to acknowledge that there's a hole in his heart, one that government programs alone may not be able to repair.'
Source: The Audacity of Hope, by Barack Obama, p.215 Oct 1, 2006
Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions
Principles that Obama supports on gun issues:
Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons.
Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms.
Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.
Source: 1998 IL State Legislative National Political Awareness Test Jul 2, 1998
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Now, knowing these little tidbits about Obama is not what I found funny.
THIS is what I found funny, that she would attack Obama for nothing more than she, herself, supported.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Hill...un_Control.htm
Now, host, if it is YOUR contention that all of these clinton or obama views were put out by their campaign, without their knowledge or approval, You've taken a serious credibility hit.
Of course, if you're also trying to state that because there is no official acknowledgement by the clinton campaign that she wrote, endorsed, published, circulated, and held a press conference about the electability of Obama because he wanted to ban handguns, then she really didn't know a thing about it......maybe you'd be right. But that would be so clintonesque, say?