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Originally Posted by abaya
There is no such thing.
They do reflect that. I don't see how you can see anything else being reflected but that. There is no inherent meaning in the universe, and that's a very beautiful thing.
That's a pretty human-centered way of looking at things. Not really odd. It just is. Yeah, and that has nothing to do with God, and everything to do with science. That is what the whole focus of science is... to figure out what the heck is going on.
Talk about covering all your bases... anything goes, huh? As long as God is involved. What's so scary about taking God out of the picture?
You have to ask yourself why things reflect creation to you. What are the factors that influence you to think that way? What are the reasons that you want to believe so badly in creation? You must admit, when it comes down to it, you just WANT to believe in God, and you're not going to listen to anyone telling you any differently. That would be more honest than coming up with a bunch of random justifications for the universe being the way it is. Because when it comes down to it, none of us have a clue. Some of us want to believe in God. Some of us can no longer do that, even if we want to... because the justifications eventually stop making sense, if you let them take their course.
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No such thing as self-less love? What about a mother's love for her child?
So your post had absolutely no meaning at all?
Why does science need to figure out what the heck is going on if everything is inherently meaningless and just is? Can you explain that infinite desire that's contained within our finite bodies?
So you just WANT to not believe in God then?
Here's why things reflect creation to me and not an explosion:
An explosion produces chaos and not order.
When a man and woman have a child, they try their hardest out of love to direct and raise the child the right way and provide a good life for him/her.
This SO reflects God creating Adam and Eve and trying to guide them in the right direction, but just like a child they disobeyed. And why did they disobey? Because they were created in God's image, they were FREE. Just like us. You can choose to turn from God's love, as can I.
It makes so much more sense to me, that things were perfect and we are turning away from God's love, and not an explosion that is building up to something.
The easiest way I can put things.. Does a hammer have a purpose? Does a hammer have meaning? This simple tool has a purpose, don't you think human life is a bit more important than a tool? Your hands are used to pick up and hold things, your legs used to move around, lungs to breath, mouth to speak, eyes to see, brain to think! This is all just random?
Sorry if it just doesn't seem even the least bit logical to me.
And listen, I'm far passed being scared of God not being in the picture. From the age of 12 till about 18 I was an atheist. Trust me, while I was in inpatient rehab for drug convictions and overdosing, and they were trying to lead me to my spiritual problem.. I was sneaking in the book, "Atheism: a case against God." While I was in school, I was looking on the internet about contradictions in the Bible. I used to hate the God that didn't exist.
It's when I started seeing God's love in my life that I was led to Him.
Just because I believe in God, doesn't mean that I need a crutch, or that I'm brainwashed and scared of reality. It means that life has purpose and meaning to me, and that my very existance is out of Love.