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Old 12-09-2007, 03:54 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by jorgelito
Oh but it's totally cool and acceptable when the "in" members attack the conservative or non-popular opinions./vent

You will find an unbalanced and inordinate amount of "warnings" and chastisements will go to the Repug-er conservative set here. Which is why so many have been driven away or "banned". Angelica, you have definitely found your crowd here.
jorgelito, please click on the link to the WaPo reader's comments
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn..._Comments.html

about the reporting displayed in my last post. My "handle" om the discussion at WaPo is
"TopTenPercentOwn70PercentOfUSassets"

Read my posts in the most recent two pages in that discussion and then tell me how valid your observations about what goes on here are. It's the "same ole shit", here...and in the WaPo discussion. Who is it that cannot discuss and support their opinions?

Here is the text of my most recent post in the WaPo article discussion, responding to a group of recent posts there from "others"...look familiar?
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TopTenPercentOwn70PercentOfUSassets wrote:
I am suspecting that you all listen to rush or hannity, or watch foxnews, or read drudge or visit townhall.com, or listen to some of their talkshow hosts on their 1200 station Salem Radio network, or a combination of all of the above, because you all post the same parroted repetitive insults and you attempt to pass it off as "discussion". Are you reading washingtontimes, or newsbusters.org or powerlineblog or LGF, or reading Joseph Farah's worldnetdaily, or David Horowitz's frontpagemag? ...BEcause you all post the same limited repetitive insults. You live in a tiny, insular world, persuaded as you are to shut out the flow of information from major news outlets around the world. You prefer to let the above mentioned, "filter" your "news", and you end up all believing exactly the same twisted propaganda and parroting the same partisan talking points, over and over:

FelipeV wrote:
BFD. Another tempest in teapot. <h3>The libs are sniveling</h3> that some mass murdering jihadis had their feelings hurt.
12/9/2007 6:19:27 PM

tobias2012 wrote:
dane1: You talk about right wing rants, you must be reading the comments out of one eye. <h3>Left wing rants are plentiful and so tired and boring:</h3> Bush, Hitler, Nazis, blah, blah, blah.

WmJLePetomane wrote:
komoco2: <h3>If you and your leftist kind</h3> saved half of your disgust for the terrorist scumbags instead of immediately belieiving unproven allegations that we are the bad guys, we'd all be better off. <h3>Disgusting? That's you.
</h3>
ricardo4max wrote:
It is good to see there are still Americans like Virginia Conservative. <h3>As for you other left wing liberal anti_Americans, How does it feel to be so against the freedoms, the Constitution, and the citizens of our country</h3> and the protection and preservation thereof, yet continue to live here, <h3>spew your @$%#^$*$@, and have your fellow citizens offer the lives to protect you? Does the phrase ungrateful hypocrite ring a bell?</h3>

algibbs wrote:
How would one respond to comments like "frankdiscussion" , and "sandralong" except to wonder how they have managed to remain outside of the loony bin?
Comments like these make the commenter appear to be mentally challenged . The sad thing is that people like this can actually vote.....

algibbs wrote:
Virginia Conservative,
I have kept up with the thread all day and you have done a magnificent job of using logic , common sense , and patriotism <h3>to counter the America hating liberals on this thread.</h3>
I congratulate you and salute you.
Rest assured , they are vociferous , but in truth they are a relatively small minority in the overall country.
Expect them to be screaming that we stole another election in 08..
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!"

This is "news"...it contains no shrieking barbs about lefties or righties, or accusations of "hating" AMerica. Grow Up!!!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...090801575.html
New Army Manual Recalls Abuse
Explicit Interrogation Guidelines Are Meant to Deter Missteps

By Josh White
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, September 9, 2006; Page A08


...."Use of torture by U.S. personnel would bring discredit upon the U.S. and its armed forces while undermining domestic and international support for the war effort," the manual says. "It also could place U.S. and allied personnel in enemy hands at a greater risk of abuse by their captors. Conversely, knowing the enemy has abused U.S. and allied POWs does not justify using methods of interrogation specifically prohibited by law, treaty, agreement, and policy."

None of the techniques in the manual is classified despite more than a year of discussions that nearly culminated in at least one tactic remaining cloaked, Gandy said. Officials opted against secrecy, he said, because they feared it could fuel suspicion that the Pentagon was hiding abusive tactics.

The list of things interrogators cannot do includes abuse alleged at various facilities and some that appear to come directly from Abu Ghraib photographs: forcing a detainee to be naked, perform sexual acts, or pose in a sexual manner; placing hoods or sacks over a detainee's head or putting duct tape over his eyes; beatings, electric shocks, burns or other painful tactics; "waterboarding"; using military working dogs; using extreme cold or hot temperatures; mock executions; and depriving a detainee of food, water or medical care.

The manual also specifies that military police are not to be involved in interrogations.

Gandy said the narrow definitions should not affect most U.S. military interrogators, who rely on direct questioning for 90 percent or more of their successful efforts. President Bush this week said an alternative set of standards for the CIA -- which is not public -- has been necessary for interrogating top terrorist suspects, but Gandy and other Army officials said aggressive tactics are not required.

"These tools, used effectively, are adequate to meet our needs," he said of the techniques in the new manual.....

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