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Originally Posted by Issmmm
We grew up in communities, neighborhoods and towns. Everybody knew everybody. Families were accountable to those communities, children included. If you f-ed up, someone told you parents. And your parents were expected to address the issue.
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This community aspect is something that I had not considered. Yes, this is an aspect that is lacking in urban/suburban America. In French polynesia there's still this community discipline. I imagine every region has varying levels of degregation in this regard. It'd be interesting to conduct a study on this.
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Originally Posted by Issmmm
Also parents stayed together, marriage wasn't as disposable as it is today.
Family is way important.
It's Feminism. I support women doing whatever they want or can, as good or better than a guy. But the other side of that is the sacrifice she makes in her family
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Family is still important. Marriage does appear disposable in some sense - but is it not possible that broken marriages are less of an issue than simply not putting family first? I do not like the idea of making divorce difficult. There are far too many women in abusive situations. Divorce must remian simple for this reason alone. Poorly-educated women with domineering husbands, women that do not have any concept of their rights - if divorce were not easy, these women would never gain the courage to work their way out.
I agree that femminism on the whole is moving in a direction that could be negative. But a woman who has rights, knows her rights, votes, speaks out in the community, and still looks out for her famly is not a bad thing.
Without at least a portion of the femminist movement, I do not know that a woman's place in society could have progressed to a healthy level.
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Originally Posted by Issmmm
It's the modern man. We have become soft. Fathers are afraid to take their position in their families for fear of being labeled domineering or abusive.
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Er... well, there are still domineering and abusive men in the world.
There are soft men. There are also not-soft men.
What position in the family do you mean? My father always worked, provided, disciplined when necessary, taught me to ride a bicycle and went riding with me often, taught my sister to rebuild an engine and other classic car tinkerings.
My mother balanced the books, kept track of the kids' schedules, did the bulk of day-to-day enforcing of rules and only called in father when she needed the big guns. She did the shopping, the raising, the everything consequential. Not to say that my father wasn't important to me - he was - but Mother really wore the pants. Father's income just made it possible for her to take such an active role.
I see no reason why this could not have worked just as well with reversed roles.
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Originally Posted by Issmmm
It's work being more important than home.
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This I'll agree to. Definitely a contributing factor. Again, when children are involved, the home should be the top priority.