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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
Chuck Liddell is known to people who follow this sport.
Bernard Hopkins is The Champ
The fact you dont know the difference is kinda the point.
And when I said that the heavyweight champion of the world was the Emporer of Masculinity... it means a chain of the greatest men that runs back to John L Sullivan, to Jem Mace... to Tom Cribb and further (I mention him cos I was drinking in a pub named after him last weekend).
Chuck Liddell simply one a few brawls and was declared the best brawler of one brand of ultimate cage fighting. He is known by people who have grown out of WWF. Muhammad Ali is known by the entire globe.
WWF is exciting and good fun, even if it isnt a real sport. UFC/MMA carries the same excitement to a degree, without the results being fixed... but it is merely an empty spectacle... to be a Champion Boxer is to inherit and embody the history of masculinity.
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I don't recognize a single name you've dropped, other than Muhammad Ali and Chuck Liddell. Isn't THAT kinda the point? I don't think that anyone here is saying that boxing doesn't have a storied history with legendary figures -- it does. On the other hand, things change, and it seem to me that MMA is growing in viewership, technique, and now, heritage. It's not inconceivable that it will have all of the history that boxing once did, and more viewers to boot. We may even be getting close to that point, at least for the second half of it.
The pageantry of boxing reminds me of WWF way more than the MMA community does.