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roachboy · 12-06-2007, 02:31 PM

generally, i find it better to be concerned about situations involving actually existing weapons systems in the hands of governments---like, say, that of pakistan---or more distantly, were i to feel for some reason that generating more anxiety was fun---israel even---than i find being concerned about non-existent nuclear weapons in the hands of governments.

o don't know--worry about weapons systems and other such that do not exist is just less interesting, somehow.
call me cynical that way.

but hey, skutch, if worrying about non-existent weapons systems floats your boat, then do go ahead and worry.
i'd be the last person to stand in the way of another's auto-stimulation.
it just doesn't interest me.

but if you want to find an in-between space, then maybe worrying about the circulation of technologies and materials that are required for the proliferation of nuclear weapons systems, at least some of which are not within the control of states (which explains how pakistan for example, got the actually existing capabilities in the first bloody place) might be something we could agree on.
that is a problem, one that should be stopped, and stopped entirely, and that if the system of nation-states cannot figure out a way to subordinate the fun and excitement of profit generation, then maybe some higher-order institutions are required to stop it.

but this gets genuinely worrisome, so i understand why you might prefer to worry about non-existent nuclear weapons systems in the hands of the official bogeyman of the moment--its a politically motivated parlor game, an exercise.
i suspect--but do not know--that this follows from a political sympathy with the present administration.
fear and trembling seems a device they deploy in order to help folk overlook their disengenousness and incompetence.
if that's your preference, then have fun with it.

but it doesn't interest me.

12-06-2007, 02:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	generally, i find it better to be concerned about situations involving actually existing weapons systems in the hands of governments---like, say, that of pakistan---or more distantly, were i to feel for some reason that generating more anxiety was fun---israel even---than i find being concerned about non-existent nuclear weapons in the hands of governments. o don't know--worry about weapons systems and other such that do not exist is just less interesting, somehow. call me cynical that way. but hey, skutch, if worrying about non-existent weapons systems floats your boat, then do go ahead and worry. i'd be the last person to stand in the way of another's auto-stimulation. it just doesn't interest me. but if you want to find an in-between space, then maybe worrying about the circulation of technologies and materials that are required for the proliferation of nuclear weapons systems, at least some of which are not within the control of states (which explains how pakistan for example, got the actually existing capabilities in the first bloody place) might be something we could agree on. that is a problem, one that should be stopped, and stopped entirely, and that if the system of nation-states cannot figure out a way to subordinate the fun and excitement of profit generation, then maybe some higher-order institutions are required to stop it. but this gets genuinely worrisome, so i understand why you might prefer to worry about non-existent nuclear weapons systems in the hands of the official bogeyman of the moment--its a politically motivated parlor game, an exercise. i suspect--but do not know--that this follows from a political sympathy with the present administration. fear and trembling seems a device they deploy in order to help folk overlook their disengenousness and incompetence. if that's your preference, then have fun with it. but it doesn't interest me. __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite Last edited by roachboy; 12-06-2007 at 02:34 PM..