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Old 12-04-2007, 02:30 AM   #30 (permalink)
Sun Tzu
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Originally Posted by Push-Pull
Firstly, don't expect a first-rate debate from me, I simply don't care to put a lot of energy into this subject.

Secondly, the whole concept that the government or "new world order" is taking the funding and time to poison the population from the tail end of aircraft is what I'm calling BS on.

I used to put IMO, or history as I’ve interpreted it in front of allot of what I posted. I did this because I became irritated when someone would post historical information as if the same data wasn’t available to the rest of the TFP community. It didn’t take a Phd to google something or go to a library, or any other source that wasnt classified information. Therefore it came down to how a person was going to interpret something. I wanted anyone reading what I posted to know I wasn’t getting on a soapbox and telling them “how things were”. In my time as a member I’ve have posted some things that weren’t very nice, always reactionary and retaliatory. While I felt good initially, I usually never felt the same after going back and reading it.

People are going to respond how they will, its not my place to judge- and I know it wouldn’t matter to anyone if I did; rightly so. “IMO” it seems people post to argue, to create one, or just be generally aggressive. Their demeanor can be seen through their presentation of words. I’m working at not taking things personally, so instead of replying to this in a fashion that my first reaction would guide me to do, I’ll word it differently.

I’m looking at the statement I wrote and I’m trying to determine how the verbiage would escalate a response such as yours. When I stated I needed clarification into which theory, I meant it literally. If that sounded like I was being a smart ass, it wasn’t my intention- I don’t know how I could have worded it any differently.

Firstly,
I specifically stated to avoid sites or sources that talk about a NW
O referencing chemtrails. I wanted to know if you were talking about their application to radar and atmospheric manipulation (nothing NWO).

Secondly,
I wont expect a first rate debate from you. A good debate produces an arena where hopefully both sides may learn something. Its obvious you don’t read posts in their entirety, so that tells me you didn’t stop in here to debate. You want to give your opinion, great- you did. Other than promoting your opinion why put any more energy into than that. To restate something you have already made apparent. OK, I’ll save you time- I really, really know and understand you think a New World Order Conspiracy behind chemtrails (even though I’ve never stated that) is BS. Thanks for your 2 cents.


Ustwo, thanks for the pictures. They confirm contrails. All except the last one clearly show the trails dispersing after a distance. The last one IMO would further clarify itself if it were footage. Who’s lying? Where are the questions being asked? Does the government deny this? It always goes back to the very question of what sources are going to start someone to question what they are being told (if even a little).
I go back to the response you gave (about the woods) allot when I’m thinking. My reply with a video was a poor choice because I think the point you made is valid and well based.

I say that because I know I would be generally happier if I didn’t question things. I’m well aware if a person seeks darkness in things they will find it. I don’t want a life of darkness. But I’ve witnessed things both in and out of the military that have given me the reality just because I choose not to believe something doesn’t mean its not happening. People like push pull will not investigate something because to them its crazy or a “waste of time”. That’s fine that’s their choosing, but when they haven’t taken the time, it may also suggest in doing so, they may find things to didn’t want to know.

Connecting the dots is a persons choice. Like for this subject you don’t go to sites that promote chemtrails as a real conspiracy, starting with information that is free from conspiracy sources provides a clearer “real” trail, and then going from there.


http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...186&RS=5003186


http://www.google.com/patents?id=v14...m=4&dq=3899144


Ustwo, with your training do you really think there is nothing to seeing a consistent one day trail free every week?
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