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Old 12-03-2007, 09:50 PM   #126 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
So Iran continues to enrich uranium at the same rate as before but demilitarized the project.

I have the same prediction as they had before, Iran will have a working bomb next decade.

And host, why oh why didn't the shadow government of lies stop the intelligence agencies from making this report? Does it only work against obscure AP reporters but not at the CIA? Seems sort of silly don't you think?



Call me when they stop.
Again, the NIE is tempered with bullshit from Cheney's office that does not match the core conclusion. Look at the crap between
<i>"Key Judgments

A. We judge with high confidence that in fall 2003, Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program 1"</i>

and:
<i>"2007 National Intelligence Estimate

Judge with high confidence that in fall 2003,
Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program. Judge
with high confidence that the halt lasted at least
several years. (DOE and the NIC have moderate
confidence that the halt to those activities
represents a halt to Iran's entire nuclear weapons
program.) Assess with moderate confidence
Tehran had not restarted its nuclear weapons
program as of mid-2007, but we do not know
whether it currently intends to develop nuclear
weapons."</i>

Then, add this:

Quote:
http://usinfo.state.gov/is/Archive/2.../21-11779.html
Iranian Nuclear Developments Pose Concerns, Negroponte Says
Intelligence director also discusses North Korea, Iraq, terrorism

By Jacquelyn S. Porth
Washington File Staff Writer

....Negroponte, in a speech in Washington, sought to put Iran’s technical capabilities into perspective, pointing out that Iran will have to enrich uranium for several more years before it has enough fissile material to put into a nuclear weapon. Although intelligence analysts continue to believe that Iran is determined to acquire a nuclear weapons capability, Negroponte said, they believe it might not achieve that goal until “perhaps into the next decade.”.....
and this:

Quote:
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2006/10/...xter-hoekstra/
Wednesday, October 18th, 2006 in News by Scott Horton| Comment |

According to former CIA officer Philip Giraldi, writing in the October 9th edition of the American Conservative magazine, the Bush administration is withholding a new CIA National Intelligence Estimate on Iran.

“The United States government’s intelligence community has prepared a National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iran, but the White House has decided that it is not “finished” yet and has decided to postpone any decision on issuing it until after the November elections. NIEs are the government’s document of record on international issues that confront the United States and they are supposed to be both impartial and definitive. Vice President Cheney’s office has reportedly objected to many of the conclusions in the draft Iran NIE, or, more to the point, to the lack of any conclusions that he would welcome.

“The draft document indicates that there is no solid intelligence confirming that Iran has a nuclear weapons program, contradicting many recent statements made by the Administration. It also states that Iran exercised virtually no control over Hezbollah in the recent fighting in Lebanon and that there is little to no confirmed information supporting the often cited contention that Iran is arming the militias and insurgents in neighboring Iraq. The report ruefully observes that there are plenty of weapons floating around inside Iraq without any assistance from Iran, though it does note, without hard evidence, that Iran could have provided some bomb making expertise and possibly sophisticated timers and detonators to the insurgency’s arsenal. For what it’s worth, most US intelligence officers working on Iran believe that Tehran is concealing a weapons program even if the hard evidence is lacking.”....
How many times do these neocon asswipes have to make your views look foolish, at the time you post them, and then, in hindsight, as in the present example, before you feel foolish, let alone ever admit that you've been had?




Quote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea.../20071021.html
For Immediate Release
Office of the Vice President
October 21, 2007

Vice President's Remarks to the Washington Institute for Near East Policy
Lansdowne, Virginia


....The Iranian regime's efforts to destabilize the Middle East and to gain hegemonic power is a matter of record. And now, of course, we have the inescapable reality of Iran's nuclear program; a program they claim is strictly for energy purposes, but which they have worked hard to conceal; a program carried out in complete defiance of the international community and resolutions of the U.N. Security Council. Iran is pursuing technology that could be used to develop nuclear weapons. The world knows this. The Security Council has twice imposed sanctions on Iran and called on the regime to cease enriching uranium. Yet the regime continues to do so, and continues to practice delay and deception in an obvious attempt to buy time.

Given the nature of Iran's rulers, the declarations of the Iranian President, and the trouble the regime is causing throughout the region -- including direct involvement in the killing of Americans -- our country and the entire international community cannot stand by as a terror-supporting state fulfills its most aggressive ambitions. (Applause.)

The Iranian regime needs to know that if it stays on its present course, the international community is prepared to impose serious consequences. The United States joins other nations in sending a clear message: We will not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon. (Applause.) ....
<h3>Bush and Cheney have known for more than a year that Iran suspended it's nuclear weapons program in 2003, and have not restarted it, but their misleading bluster drones on, just weeks ago:</h3>
Quote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea.../20071017.html
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
October 17, 2007

Press Conference by the President

Q But you definitively believe Iran wants to build a nuclear weapon?

THE PRESIDENT: I think so long -- until they suspend and/or make it clear that they -- that their statements aren't real, yeah, I believe they want to have the capacity, the knowledge, in order to make a nuclear weapon....
<h3>"No nukes", no major role in Iraqi violence or resistance against US forces in Iraq...so why are Bush/Cheney throwing so much rhetoric and parades of US military hardware into the Persian gulf, at Iran's door?:</h3>
Quote:
http://dni.gov/press_releases/20070202_release.pdf
Prospects for Iraq’s Stability: A Challenging Road Ahead
January 2007

...Iraq’s neighbors influence, and are influenced by, events within Iraq, but the involvement of these outside actors is not likely to be a major driver of violence or the prospects for stability because of the self-sustaining character of Iraq’s internal sectarian dynamics. Nonetheless, Iranian lethal support for select groups of Iraqi Shia militants clearly intensifies the conflict in Iraq.....


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...020101152.html
Iraq at Risk of Further Strife, Intelligence Report Warns

By Karen DeYoung and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, February 2, 2007; Page A01

.....The document emphasizes that although al-Qaeda activities in Iraq remain a problem, they have been surpassed by Iraqi-on-Iraqi violence as the primary source of conflict and the most immediate threat to U.S. goals. Iran, which the administration has charged with supplying and directing Iraqi extremists, is mentioned but is not a focus.......
Bush's and Cheney's October, 2007 accusations against Iran contradict both the new NIE on Iran, and how the "threat" posed by Iran is described in the January, 2007 NIE on Iraq....

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