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Originally Posted by Halx
No desire to add some clarification, x?
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Well, I didn't want it to become a personal attack, but I think I can skirt the fringe a bit. Much like the Pussy != Vagina thread and at least one other that I cannot find at the moment, as soon as people start disagreeing with her, she goes on about how we just don't understand what she's saying. It's hard to have constructive or interesting conversation that way. Either 1) CN just doesn't like to be disagreed with, or 2) CN just cannot convey her ideas in a way that most people on the TFP can actually understand what she means.
Cyborg Ninja, I am not trying to be a dick. I think you bring up some interesting thread topics. So, truly, I enjoy having you here. It just seems that you get far more defensive or bent out of shape than most other regulars over misunderstandings and disagreements. It frustrates me.
I'm pretty sure I understand your OP, at least verbatim to what you actually typed into it. I still disagree with you and am in the "same shit different day" camp. Every generation or two has a large enough subcultural gap that this same exact topic comes up. It's not that I don't understand that you feel many young men are rude and aimless. I agree. But compared to the young men of the 40s, the young men of the 60s were the same. Compared to those of the 1800s, those of the 1900s were especially lazy and crude. Sure, that's a much larger than one or two generation gap, I'm just over-illustrating.
Hopefully you understand where I'm coming from on the first part of my post, even if you grossly disagree with the latter part.