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Originally Posted by matthew330
"radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America." - Rosie O'Donnel
I kinda think Rosie was holding back a bit when she said this, but that's not the point. The point is, Will, you obviously agree with her....and that is as ignorant as ignorant can get. Any attempt at comparing Christianity to the OP is so far off base it can only be considered hatred for Christianity.
You're such a terrorist Will, and you don't even know it.
...as an afterthought...read through this thread.
At some point, don't you people think to yourselves there's something wrong with this reaction:
When I hear of 600 people calling publicly for the death of a schoolteacher who was there to teach their children, or an entire geographic area calls for the death of a cartoonist because something offended them...my immediate reaction is to use my years of psychological, sociological, and political training to put it into perspective.
But when I hear about these crazy f'ers knocking on doors trying to tell me about their jahova.....pull out the fucking guillotine.
I won't ask because you've probably been poked in the eye by shards of glass from an exploding abortion clinic, and shot in the knee by a member of the KKK as you were walking by a church, but you seem willing enough to accept that the OP doesn't represent Islam, couldn't you at least give Christianity the same courtesy?
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IMO, the opinions you expressed in your post are outrageously biased and inaccurate. Militant zionism in the US and the influence over the US military, the federal government and it's foreign policy, and the media by militant evangelical christians is at least equally troubling.
Our military and the CIC/decider who directs them, under the recently outsized evangelical christian and zionist influences, is responsible for the deaths of more innocent muslim civilians than I can tally. Your one sided POV, in view of the facts, elicits countering opinions that you then perceive perceive to be one sided. They're not because they come from people who view "both sides" as extreme, petty, ignorant, anachranistic, and equal examples of the nonsense that is organized religion, responsible for more senseless killing and persecution than any other catalyst in history.
Christians have no record of measured compassion for "the other", than muslims have demonstrated.
Until you're willing to accept that neither christians nor muslims have any claim to a higher moral authority than the other, you work consciously or not, to the dead it makes no difference.... to help make it a certainty that there will be plenty more dead.
They die on both "sides", because of the ignorance and intolerance of some "on those sides". Get in the middle. Stop the nonsense. Lessen the tension and misunderstanding that foments the killing.
The blind one sided point of view that fuels and justifies the violence in the name of WHATEVER, isn't working, and you would say that it's "will's fault" or it's "host's fault" because we believe that the killing it cannot be justified by neocon BS "islamo-fascist" rhetoric and delirium. Bush, Cheney, Bolton, and their neocon/JINSA/CNP propaganda and their, advocacy of waterboarding makes the Irania president look reasonable in comparison, and you never ever notice, do you?
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0071107-1.html
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
November 7, 2007
Interview of the President by RTL and N-TV, German TV
Map Room
November 6, 2007
....Q Who do you think it's going to be?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I can't tell you that because -- I think it will be a Republican. I truly do. I think someone from my party will win, but, you know, I'm not going to speculate because the American press, of course, would take my speculation; you know, "Bush is" --
Q Of course. But you think it's going to be a Republican?
THE PRESIDENT: I really do, yes. The economy is in pretty good shape, and we've got some issues, but the economy is pretty strong, which -- and the other side does want to raise taxes. And I do believe taxes are a big issue in America. <h3>And then the foreign policy -- and if you will listen to the debate, our candidates have got a strong, firm view of how to conduct foreign policy and the American people innately understand that there's -- there's still threats out there. And our biggest job is to protect our -- see, that's an interesting difference between, say, Germany and America. We've been attacked. We feel like another attack is coming, and therefore, you know, our actions ought to be to protect our country.</h3> And, you know, I'm not so sure that it's that same sense of anxiety in other parts of Europe or in Germany.
Q Well, we have some old fears. I mean, we were on the border of the Cold War. I mean, we had this Iron Curtain in our country, in that respect. We know a little bit about that, too. But I can understand your position as well, sure.
THE PRESIDENT: You know, look, there's -- and one of the things I would like to assure the German public about is that I really don't want to have increased tensions with Russia. As a matter of fact, I've worked hard to create an environment that is not hostile, but --
Q Also with the missile shield --
THE PRESIDENT: That's what I was about to describe -- that this is not aimed at Russia. I mean, it -- and frankly it's absurd for somebody to say it is aimed at Russia, because the number of interceptors that would be there -- the rockets to knock down the other rocket -- will be limited in number and therefore somebody who has got a handful of rockets can overwhelm the system. It's just really aimed at, you know, a rogue nation that wants to hold a --
Q Like Iran.
THE PRESIDENT: -- hostage. Like Iran, absolutely. And hopefully, again, you know, the system becomes moot or not needed, by getting the Iranians to back off their ambitions.
And, you know, we did something really interesting with Russia on this Iranian issue. The Iranians said, it's our sovereign right to have nuclear power. And I said, yes, it is; it is your sovereign right. But we can't trust you to enrich because you've been hiding your program from international inspectors, and so therefore we will join -- we agree with Russia when they said, you can have a plant and we, Russia, will provide you the fuel and collect the fuel; which I strongly support.
And so -- the only reason I bring that up is I know that people think that our relations with Russia are, you know, may not be conducive to constructive action, but we got -- we do -- and there's no question there's tensions on some issues.
Q Okay.
THE PRESIDENT: But we can work together as well.
Q Okay. Final question: You will have one year in office. How do you think you will be remembered as a President?
THE PRESIDENT: I think I'll be remembered as a guy who, you know, was dealt some pretty tough issues to deal with and I dealt with them head-on and I didn't try to shy away. I didn't, you know, I didn't sacrifice -- I was firm and that I made decisions based upon principles, not based upon the latest Gallup Poll. And that I helped this country protect itself, <h3>and at the same time was unashamed, unabashed at spreading <a href="http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpost.php?p=2333730&postcount=3">certain values</a> to others --
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the main one being liberty, whether it be the freedom from forms of government or the freedom from disease and hunger.</h3> And that we had a very robust foreign policy in the name of peace....
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