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Old 12-01-2007, 09:28 PM   #156 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Elphaba
For many reasons, several given in this topic, I have come to believe that the US should abolish the death penalty again. One reason that has not been given, is that the US is the only "industrialized" nation to continue the practice.
I am curious where you got your information from? Do you not consider China or the Russian Federation as an "industrialized" nation? Both of these countries support and use the death penalty. Also, as was mentioned earlier in this thread, has anyone considered that in those contries as well, their crime rate is lower than in the U.S. BECAUSE their death penaties are actually LESS strict than here in the U.S.?


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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
Would anyone here refuse to serve a jury duty if they knew the guilty verdict would result in capitol punishment?
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Originally Posted by willravel
It wouldn't lead to capital punishment if I were on the jury. I'd actively prevent it.

I'd tell him I do support the death penalty and of course be referring to the death penalty for the lamb I'd eaten the night before. He'd need to be ridiculously specific in order to get a straight answer out of me.
Will, while I support your rights to oppose the death penalty, I would prefer that you used the media, and public voice to fight against it, than try to, in my opinion, sneak in the back door.


Also, earlier in this thread it was mentioned I believe that Texas has the highest criminal population, as well as the highest execution rate than any other state.... Um.... HELLO! Texas has the largest POPULATION as well...I think that MIGHT have something to do with it.

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
Interesting information, according to the information not only is the death penalty not a deterent- the murder rate is lower in states without capital punishment.
Interesting article, however I am curious how the individual states break down based on poulation DENSITY as well as overall population. (This leading to the thought of is the murder rate higher in relation to the DENSITY of the population, compared to the overall population fo the individual states) Also, I do not see that there is any PROOF that the death penalty is not a deterent. This page is a factual breakdown of the numbers. Only by interviewing each and every criminal that commited a murder could one TRULY find out if that states death penalty, or lack therof had any input in their decision. Remember that a large number of murders are "crimes of passion" where there was no premeditation, or opportunity to CONSIDER the ramifications of their actions. I find that this article, while informative, does not properly calculate the true reasons behind "do i commit murder or not based on this state's capital punishment laws?"
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