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Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights
I think that one could easily point to any time, in American history, and pick out the sickenly rich, the incredibly wealthy, the very comfortable, the "average Joe", and the down and out. How is this point in time any different?
How would you propose to remedy this..."situation". I mean, if you start playing Robin Hood, and robbing the rich to give to the poor, then you will remove the incentive for innovation. On top of that, you encourage people to sit back and be non-productive.
Look. It's not that I'm completely unsympathetic to your concerns. I, too, grow angry when I read stories of CEOs that walk away with millions in salaries and bonuses, after running a company into the ground and laying off hundreds of the working class. That's not right. But, then neither, is punishing those that have earned the rights to the fruits of their hard work. Would you have Bill Gates just write everyone that makes less that $50,000 a check for $500?
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The problem with socialists is they have no idea where wealth comes from. They treat it as a zero sum game where there is a big pile, and some people grabbed too much of the pile to be fair. They act as if they could only give everyone more of the pile everything would be all better, not realizing that people have been adding to the pile all along. Those people stop adding, and then what you have is a smaller pile with few people adding.
For example, I'm opening an office thats costing me 600,000 dollars to get the doors open on. This to me is a lot of money. I am doing it not to serve the community, thats just a great bonus. I'm doing it to make money, which is why I'm taking a huge risk, to do so. The bank thinks I'm a good risk and loaned me said money, which I have to start paying back in 2 months even though my doors are not open yet. I will be hiring 7 people for full time work, I will be paying more in taxes, I will be providing a wanted service in the community. Win, win, win but it all required MY risk, my investment, my effort, my ulcers (figuratively).
Lets pretend we get all socialist on this. I am already in the top 10% wage earners or something close to that, so I'm sure I"m part of hosts little hit group. Never mind I still live in a modest home, drive old cars, and haven't bought a new pair of shoes in over a year, I'm one of those evil wealthy people apparently. Ok so president for life host decides I make too much money and shouldn't make any more, or should be taxed on ridiculous percentage.
Does anyone think I'm going to take a huge risk like that? No fucking way, not on your life. So 7 people need to find jobs else where, a bank needs to find another client, the community has to hope someone else opens up, and about a million dollars of commerce a year that would be required to just RUN my place never happens. Now multiply that across the country by the millions of business owners and guess what the outcome is?
Now lets say host is a benevolent president for life after his armed overthrow of the government. He says 'Ustwo, let me tell you, we will build your clinic, you can work there, it will be good!'. This can happen for me, after all mine is medical (though not life threatening so odds are it would be cut but thats another issue). Why would have I worked my ass off in the first place to get there? I spent 11 years of my life in school PAST college to do what I do at the level I do it, do you think I did it because it was just fun? But lets say I did it, and that I felt working my ass off for a decade longer than most people was worth the lack of extra money.
Is this going to happen for business? Will people be motivated when the boss is the state?
Hell no, yet these non-producing people are going to tell us how its suppose to work, or because they don't mind working harder than most for the same wages its somehow going to work for the population as a whole?
Its not about equity, its about jealousy. Its about if we can't figure out how to get it, you can't have it either or as hosts states they will kill us in a revolution. How well did those revolutions in the past work out for the poor? Think thats going to change too?
Its disgusting and sad how little people understand that reason America is the big kid on the block has nothing to do with us being a republic, but the economic freedom we have been given, something which in the past WAS only allowed to the elites.
In the US you can become an 'elite' if you have the right stuff, you don't have to be born into the right family or vote for the right political party, and this very thing is what people like host want to see destroyed.