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Originally Posted by willravel
Punishment? And how would one be punished by death?
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Oh I dunno, something about it seems sort of harsh to me.
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Vengeance? You've got that right.
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Justice for the victims? As I've said, the victims don't feel better after the execution. In fact, often times they feel worse. That's why vengeance is traditionally frowned upon: it's hollow for people of conscience. You commit the act of vengeance and... now you feel even worse.
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You rape and murder my wife, I'm not going to feel worse, sorry will, it doesn't work that way. Bunch of psychobabble there will, at least as it would pertain to me. I have to wonder why so many family members witness the executions, maybe just to feel bad eh?
Lets take a brief look at those who witnessed the execution of Timothy McVey...
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QUESTION: Could you describe the emotions in the room when he was pronounced dead?
HOWELL: Do what, sir?
QUESTION: Could you describe the emotions in your room when he was pronounced dead?
HOWELL: Well, I can tell you what my emotions were. I won't speak on behalf of the rest of them because they don't want me to. My emotions was it was just a big relief, just a big sigh come over my body and it just felt like, it felt real good, sir.
(CROSSTALK)
QUESTION: Could the rest of you speak to that?
HOWELL: Do what?
QUESTION: Could the rest of you -- could you...
SCOTT: We were happy.
ASHFORD: I'm elated.
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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../11/se.08.html
Whats hilarious is you can tell that they want them to say something bad about the execution.
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QUESTION: Please, sir, this is for French television. Except in the United States, the whole world is watching you and outside the United States, people are horrified by this execution. What do you want to say to the outside world?
SCOTT: The same way it was April 19th, 1995 when you looked at the TVs and saw what happened to the Alfred P. Murrah Building. It probably feels the same way.
QUESTION: But do you feel better today?
SCOTT: About that much, because we can't bring back the lives that were lost. I mean other than that, one life for 168.
QUESTION: Did it change your way of thinking about the death penalty?
SCOTT: No, it didn't.
QUESTION: You said you felt this great big relief and it was changing in the way you felt inside. Elaborate a bit on that for me. Was your daughter in there with you?
HOWELL: My daughter, along with my whole family, a lot of the other 30 or 40 people that I knew personally that got killed in the bombing, I was thinking about all those people and I kind of said a prayer to them and told them it's over with. And that's when the relief came to me, yes.
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So sorry Willy I don't buy that pyschobabble.
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Is your wish for vengeance really worth making the victims feel even worse? Haven't they been through enough?
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Oh so now being against the death penalty is for the victims eh? Give me a break, ask Mr. Howell there if he wants you to protect him from it.