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Originally Posted by pan6467
I will never understand why it is so very important for an Atheist to try to convince there is no God and their constant need to belittle those that do believe.
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You brought up the idea that atheism is a religion, which I find almost as offensive as the idea that atheists are immoral. I make it a practice to never instigate discussions about god or theism. I just address things brought up by others to be addressed by me. As for the belittling, I try to avoid it but I also don't like mincing words.
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Originally Posted by pan6467
Some want us to believe that by being Atheist they won't have to fight in the name of God. And yet, they will be as verbally offensive and degrading, and can be as violent in their own beliefs.
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Violent? This all reeks of appeal to emotion or appeal to victimization fallacy.
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Originally Posted by pan6467
They claim they are above the "religious" because they are smarter, more scientific, more knowledgeable, more rational...... and yet, they will do all they can to shove their beliefs down your throat... in the name of "nothingness" "Science" whatever whichever Atheist wishes to claim is their reason for "disbelief".
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Above? Smarter? You're not getting this at all. Some of the most brilliant people in history have been theists. Mozart was a theist. Shakespeare was a theist. It has little or nothing to do with intellect, really. Fundamentalism, maybe, but not theism. As for shoving, I have to try not to laugh at that. You live in Jesusland next to the rest of us. I live in one of the most liberal places in the US, and I still get it shoved down my throat every day. It's disgusting and frustrating, but
[QUOTE=pan6467]Atheism to me is still a religious/spiritual belief and quite possibly the only one I can truly say I cannot agree with any anyway. Not the fact that they don't want to believe in a spirituality, that is a very personal decision to begin with and I can respect that.... it's the fact that they (the vocal and somewhat militant) choose to be very condescending, far more judgmental and self serving than the vast majority of believers in a God or Spirituality.
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Originally Posted by pan6467
How fucking ironic is that?
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Originally Posted by pan6467
I will never understand why it is so very important for an Atheist to try to convince there is no God and their constant need to belittle those that do believe.
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You brought up the idea that atheism is a religion, which I find almost as offensive as the idea that atheists are immoral. I make it a practice to never instigate discussions about god or theism. I just address things brought up by others to be addressed by me. As for the belittling, I try to avoid it but I also don't like mincing words.
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Originally Posted by pan6467
Some want us to believe that by being Atheist they won't have to fight in the name of God. And yet, they will be as verbally offensive and degrading, and can be as violent in their own beliefs.
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Violent? This all reeks of appeal to emotion or appeal to victimization fallacy.
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Originally Posted by pan6467
They claim they are above the "religious" because they are smarter, more scientific, more knowledgeable, more rational...... and yet, they will do all they can to shove their beliefs down your throat... in the name of "nothingness" "Science" whatever whichever Atheist wishes to claim is their reason for "disbelief".
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Above? Smarter? You're not getting this at all. Some of the most brilliant people in history have been theists. Mozart was a theist. Shakespeare was a theist. It has little or nothing to do with intellect, really. Fundamentalism, maybe, but not theism. As for shoving, I have to try not to laugh at that. You live in Jesusland next to the rest of us. I live in one of the most liberal places in the US, and I still get it shoved down my throat every day. It's disgusting and frustrating, but I let it slide. So we made a thread called "Atheism", and we're guilty of throat shoving? That's as incorrect as it is melodramatic. No, atheism hasn't been shoved down anyone's throat since it was misused by communist Russia... and that wasn't even really atheism.
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Originally Posted by pan6467
Atheism to me is still a religious/spiritual belief and quite possibly the only one I can truly say I cannot agree with any anyway. Not the fact that they don't want to believe in a spirituality, that is a very personal decision to begin with and I can respect that.... it's the fact that they (the vocal and somewhat militant) choose to be very condescending, far more judgmental and self serving than the vast majority of believers in a God or Spirituality.
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You're in a thread called "Atheism's Sudden Rise" complaining about how vocal atheists are.