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Originally Posted by Infinite_Loser
All axioms are 'irrational' and 'require a leap of faith', as axioms are nothing more than a set of principles which are assumed to be self-evident truths (For example, the axiom "All men are created equally").
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The axoims that we can trust our senses are traditionally considered to be reasonable. I see this, therefore it's reasonable absent evidence to the contrary, to consider what you see as real. Not only that, but the scientific method is reasonable by it's very nature, therefore it's reasonable to use the scientific method to provide reliable information. It's those two axoims upon which our entire perceptions are based.
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Originally Posted by Infinite_Loser
They're necessary is order to provide a 'starting point' which you can then use to determine whether or not all other statements are logically derived. I've said this before, but science is built on induction. It can only measure the known; Not the unknown. Put another way, you can't prove that all swans are white but you can prove that some swans aren't white.
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What about Shaniqwa Swain? She's a black swain and proves that some swains aren't white. Booyah? Booyah.
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Originally Posted by Infinite_Loser
I'm not a scientologist. However, as long as it adhere's to it's basic religious axioms and is consistent within itself then, hey, it's about a logical argument as will come around
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Religious axoims presuppose god. They cannot be used, despite what idiots like Plantinga want, to prove or disprove the existence of god.