[posting from my hotel room at a climate science conference]
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Originally Posted by ottopilot
My comment on this topic was simply a direct response to your statement: "They did an amazing job, as usual". Shall I make that any clearer for you or are you trolling once again for another pointless and antagonistic confrontation aimed at wearing people down rather than participating in polite discourse?
No more than you have regurgitated ad nauseam a tedious and never-ceasing flow of highly biased sources (IMO including the IPCC report) that support your extreme viewpoint, I have respectfully offered another source of information citing results of a survey given to some of the very same participants of the IPCC report. For as much as I can accept the interpretation of the information gathered and presented by the IPCC report, I fail to see why we shouldn't calmly examine other sources ( especially when some of the IPCC participants are claiming that their findings may have been misinterpreted or misrepresented). The information I have provided is open for discussion. I believe most of the other participants of this thread understand this very simple point whether they agree with the premise or not. Do you have an opinion to add to the discussion rather than answer my questions with questions to solicit an argument?
In my opinion, the United Nations is mostly corrupt and highly ineffective. One man's IPCC report on global warming is just another man's supporting document or appendix to a business plan for managing a multi-million dollar carbon credit scam in the image of "Oil for Food". The man-made global warming fanaticism is a political scare tactic and it is highly appealing to the so-called "useful idiots" (similar to, and described by the western communists in 1948 implying that the person in question was naïve, foolish, or in willful denial, and was being cynically used by the Soviet Union, or another Communist state to perpetuate political subversion).
I do not deny that the earth appears to be in a warming trend. However, it is becoming more evident that we should take caution in the formulation of cause, effect and remedy. I remember that a consensus of scientists not too long ago believed we were doomed to a new man-made ice-age. One of the proposed remedies was to dump soot on the polar caps to melt the ice. I don't want knee-jerk measures invoked because some poorly informed people want to "feel good" about "making a difference", because they are blinded by politics, or are still in denial regarding Barry Bond's use of steroids  . |
Wow, that’s a lot of bile in response to the question of whether Steve Milloy is credible, which, by the way, wasn’t answered. Why should anybody waste a millisecond of their time reading your link if you can’t vouch for it yourself?
And it does seem rather contradictory, in a funny sort of way, that the fountain of skepticism is blasting like Old Faithful whenever the most scientifically peer-reviewed document in the history of the planet is brought up, but somehow the fountain dries up like a Death Valley arroyo every time lawyer and Exxon spokesman Steve Milloy opens his mouth.
I can't wait for the next link, I always like to spend my evenings learning about science from well-connected lawyers.