Tilted Cat Head
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Originally Posted by willravel
I got a plastic tube, not a heart. It's made out of dacron, the same compound used to make plastic coke bottles. It was medical grade, mind you, but it's very easy to manufacture and there wouldn't be a line to get it any more then there'd be a line to get plastic shopping bags. The procedure? I had a good doctor. There are lots of good doctors. Mine happened to be in SFSU when I needed the coarctation repair. He happened to be a cardiologist of some note, but the surgery isn't brain surgery. I was told that most hospitals have someone who could have done it. I was in and out in 2 weeks, and that's at age 5.
You're right. Not everyone has morals. You're bright and well informed, though, which usually is accompanied by an integration of sympathy and empathy which translates into the golden rule.
This is a discussion about the haves, not the have nots. It's not about entitlement at all. It's about responsibility as a member of the human race.
You do help yourself. I'm not against that. You also help others, because it's unselfish.
And that's how it works.
We're talking about your paranoia that you think people are trying to steal from you to pay for the poor which you apparently took as some kind of attack.
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Paranoia??? I'm not paranoid about it, people are discussing actually spending more of my earnings in some capacity thus reducing my own stocks for my own purposes.
I feel I pay plenty of taxes. I pay more taxes than some people make as a year salary. You and host are suggesting that I pay more for more social services. I'm not interested in giving it up without a fight.
Sorry, the golden rule is a nice thing to believe in, but I still believe strongly that when I need the help that it won't be there for me because of this belief I prepare for my own needs and help myself. You would rather not bother to help yourself thinking that someone will be there to help you. That's great, I'm happy for you. I don't think that way and I'm not interested in thinking that way. I'm happy to give a hand out if someone needs it, but what we are discussing here isn't a once or twice shot, but actually universal healthcare, which is a LIFETIME.
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