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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
Life is fair? Really? You got a heart operation and others who are in line for heart transplants that don't get them. That's fair? Oh because there's an organization that tries to make it more equitable that makes it more fair? Maybe in your world, not in mine. Life is still not fair.
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I got a plastic tube, not a heart. It's made out of dacron, the same compound used to make plastic coke bottles. It was medical grade, mind you, but it's very easy to manufacture and there wouldn't be a line to get it any more then there'd be a line to get plastic shopping bags. The procedure? I had a good doctor. There are lots of good doctors. Mine happened to be in SFSU when I needed the coarctation repair. He happened to be a cardiologist of some note, but the surgery isn't brain surgery. I was told that most hospitals have someone who could have done it. I was in and out in 2 weeks, and that's at age 5.
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
Just because you believe in the golden rule doesn't mean that someone will give it to you.
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You're right. Not everyone has morals. You're bright and well informed, though, which usually is accompanied by an integration of sympathy and empathy which translates into the golden rule.
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
That fact alone is the problem with this discussion, you feel entitled to it if you were shit poor.
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This is a discussion about the haves, not the have nots. It's not about entitlement at all. It's about responsibility as a member of the human race.
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
You feel entitled to that help because you'd do it for someone else. No, I don't subscribe to that, I help myself, and will continue to do so. I don't care for someone else's help, in fact most of the time, someone else's help isn't for my benefit but for their own in some manner because like you said, it's their responsibility.
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You do help yourself. I'm not against that. You also help others, because it's unselfish.
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
Being able to take care of myself FIRST before I help others is more important. Otherwise when travelling shouldn't the parent put that mask on the child first? No it's because if I don't take care of myself first, I would never be able to take care of another human being. After myself is my family and my friends, they unfortunately for the rest of the world take up a good chunk of the benevolence I have. Anything left over from that goes to the rest of the world.
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And that's how it works.
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
taking care and helping out? This is healthcare thread remember? Nurses wipe asses... so that's what we are talking about.
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We're talking about your paranoia that you think people are trying to steal from you to pay for the poor which you apparently took as some kind of attack.