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Old 11-26-2007, 03:40 PM   #488 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by willravel
And you're getting these ideas from where? I can't remember promoting hatred or ignorance of religions. As a matter of fact, most atheists just want to go about living our lives without being killed or having to move because we don't have a personal relationship with Jesus.
But you would have people move because you refuse to allow religion to be discussed and taught in school?

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We do learn about religion, in history class. We don't pray, though. We don't have god taking any kind of administrative role at the school
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Ok, but for some religion isn't just history. Knowing the history of each religion can bring forth better understanding and would be part of the "one week" religious class", I proposed. (And yes it maybe actually 2 or 3 week courses).

What part of religion were you taught in school? What part is acceptable to you?

Where have I ever said that I supported in anyway
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god taking any kind of administrative role at the school
How is a school teaching all major religions as being a theocracy, or putting God in an administrative role at the school?

You are just reaching now Will.

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Religion has it's own school that can be run by people of that faith. What if a teacher is Christian and asked to teach people how to pray to Allah? That's just asking for serious problems, and it's not like there's a shortage of churches or bible schools.
Again, the teacher doesn't tell you who to pray to or that you have to, just allows you the opportunity to if you so desire. Atheists got rid of even "the moment of silence" because it still promoted religion.... even though it promoted no religion and was considered voluntary. I call that extreme.

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You can discuss it, sure. Don't make school into a religious institution, though.

If we lived in a theocracy, it'd make sense to have church presence in school. We don't. We allow for church to be free to preach. We don't preach in schools because we're not a theocracy. It has nothing to do with hatred. It's about equality.
Yes, it does. I offered a true compromise... a way for children to understand and learn about others beliefs, you aren't even willing to do that. Again it is bow down to YOUR beliefs but don't even try to get someone else's in there.... You are deciding what the compromise or lack thereof will be. To you it is a subject as closed as your mind.

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You can't be an extremist atheist. There are no atheist bombings. There are no atheist crusades. One can be an extremist while being an atheist, I suppose, but there is no connection between the extremism and the atheism. We have no doctrine to be extreme about. We just don't believe in something.
Really, no extremism?

Then what is.... "My beliefs will be taught, there will be no compromise. If the majority vote for it we will strike it down. We determine what can be taught in school. We regulate what can be done on school property (school kids can't gather to say prayer after or before games.... sound familiar?).... We determine what is in the best interest of the country. We determine that our belief in "nothingness" or however you wish to phrase it is far more important than kids learning different cultures, different religions, etc.

That is extreme pushing your beliefs on me is extreme.

I didn't attack you for your belief.... I never even looked in this thread before you took 1 sentence out of a post and made an issue of it.

So who is the extremist?
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