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Originally Posted by pan6467
Ok..... let's look at it this way.
Do you believe in God? If no, what is your belief?
Are you fervent in your belief?
I'm sorry, to me Atheism is a religion that believes in nothing spiritually. (Agnosticism is the one that says there maybe....).
Now you can claim Scientific belief that there is no God, personal belief, statistically.... anyway you desire to say there is no God. But MY BELIEF is that if you are fervent, if you are so wrapped up in being an Atheist and that you scoff others beliefs or are so closed minded that you believe your belief to be the "only true belief". Then you are basically, for all intents and purposes no different than 99% of all other religions and religious zealots out there. It's just YOU choose to say you do not believe in anything.... but a belief in nothing is still a belief in something.
So for me, in my belief.... you choosing to say "there is no God" and being adamant to which so that no prayer can be in school, even if the school is willing to cover all major forms of spirituality, even the lack of, then you are just as pushing of your beliefs as the Christian Right, the extremist Muslim, etc. I say this because you are still pushing a spiritual belief, whether you accept it is a belief or not.
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Calling atheism a religion is like calling "not collecting baseball cards" a hobby.
Also, agnosticism is not mutually exclusive with athiesm or even theism. You can be an agnostic atheist, or an agnostic theist.
From Wikipedia:
"Agnostic theism is the philosophical view that encompasses both theism and agnosticism. An agnostic theist is one who views that the truth value of certain claims, in particular the existence of god(s) is unknown or inherently unknowable but chooses to believe in god(s) in spite of this. There are contrasting views of the term."
I think atheists, like myself, would say that there is no compelling evidence for the existence of a god. Atheists generally place a very high value on reason and logic, science, and the scientific method. It is impossible to hold a belief in a god without casting aside your reason or logic, at least temporarily.