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Originally Posted by Infinite_Loser
I'm guessing this is a joke. What would you call groups such as, say, AA?
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Just to nitpick here, but AA most definitely not secular in any way. In fact, just the opposite.
The entire 12 step program is based around surrendering to the fact that you are powerless against alcohol, and the only chance you have to stay sober is in fact asking your higher power (insert god of your choice here) to assist you. A belief in God or higher power is the centerpiece of AA.
A lot of people actually have a big problem with this fact, since AA is often mandatory for people who get a DUI conviction. They see it as state sponsored religion. You cannot complete the 12 step program without accepting a belief in God.