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Originally Posted by Charlatan
Wow will... you are really going to try and tell a professional musician what music is?
If anyone really knows I would say it's someone who spends nearly all of his time playing, thinking about and living music.
I am just saying...
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So because he plays he's right and Webster is wrong? I play, too. I've played piano since I was in diapers, many times professionally. I mean that doesn't really have anything to do with semantics, but there it is.
The word "music" means what it means.
I'm not arguing that all rap is bad or anything like that, and rappers are "artists" by trade, but speaking for a while—in beat or not—isn't music. "Rap music" is a contradiction in terms or at the very least a miscategorization.
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Originally Posted by Manic_Skafe
In the traditional sense of music, no. But noise can and often is considered musical.
Nonsense. Exactly how much is your definition of music, in it's most traditional sense, truly worth when that definition is completely irrelevant to many if not most of those that create and appreciate music?
Your entire argument boils down to nothing more than a matter of semantics.
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The thread is semantics. "Is rap music?" is one of the primary questions of the thread. That question is essentially "what does music mean, and does rap fall under that meaning?" The strict answer is no.