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Originally Posted by Ustwo
.... but its not as colossal a fuck up as you imply here. It can be saved and won, in fact I expect as soon as a democrat gets elected president we will start to see 'good things' stories from Iraq. New schools, new hope, blah blah. Really the way to make this a monumental fuck up is to throw up our hands and 'honorable redeploy' like so many on this board think is a good idea.
We've got a nation of 27 million people under our direct and indirect control, we need to make good on our promises. Not keeping them would be a true monumental fuck up.
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Not a colossal fuck up? Only if you ignore the ethnic cleansing, the 2+ million refugees, the killing of tens of thousands in sectarian violence as well as the killing of civilians by US troops and private security forces, the rising disease among children as a result of lack of basic resources, the corruption of the new Iraqi government, the influence of the extremist Shiite militias in the new Iraqi police and military ...oh wait, you did ignore all that.
How can it be saved and won by a continued US occupation? (leaving aside the bullshit blah blah about what liberals would say about it if a democrat wins the WH). We made good on our promise....we got rid of Saddam.. Now its up to the Iraqis and its hard to be optimistic.
How does our further presence bring the Iraqi government closer to political reconciliation? How much progress have they made in the last year on the 18 political/economic benchmarks?