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Originally Posted by Charlatan
You see this is where you fall off for me. You are correct in the resulting failure of Iraq will not be the fault of just one person. However, that fault lies in the absence of a sound plan for solving the issue of Iraq in the first place.
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What would be a sound plan? I'd say the mistake was going in as liberators rather than conqueror's but hindsight and all.
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The invasion should never have occurred in the manner in which it did. The Bush administration entered Iraq without a Gulf War 1 coalition. There was arguably a good reason to take out Saddam and doing this was going to be easy. It was what comes after Saddam that they need support to pull off.
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It would have been great to have more help, but they were too busy writing contracts with Saddam.
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Regardless of the reasons for going in (anything from oil to building a stable democracy in the middle east) Iraq has been one giant fuck up of monumental proportion whether or not the so-called left decides to pull out or not..
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How many nations have been invaded and fundamentally transformed without issue and so LITTLE loss of life. I think you fail to see the big picture here in that sure there have been a LOT of mistakes in Iraq, but its not as colossal a fuck up as you imply here. It can be saved and won, in fact I expect as soon as a democrat gets elected president we will start to see 'good things' stories from Iraq. New schools, new hope, blah blah. Really the way to make this a monumental fuck up is to throw up our hands and 'honorable redeploy' like so many on this board think is a good idea.
We've got a nation of 27 million people under our direct and indirect control, we need to make good on our promises. Not keeping them would be a true monumental fuck up.