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Old 11-19-2007, 08:42 AM   #16 (permalink)
Ustwo
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Originally Posted by host

Sun Tzu, your solutions do not even acknowledge, much less address the problems. The only recourse "the rest of us" have in responding to the problems of growing (and already, in the US, obscene) wealth inequality and the chronic corruption in the largest corporations (it's assumed that the largest are less corrupt than the less prominent corporations) is government.

There is no level playing field, and there is no inertia for the lower three quarters of us to reverse the wealth consolidation trend. The regulatory laws are being dismantled by lobbyists of the financial industries, and there is lax enforcement, and you seem to want that to continue.
Bullshit

Get a real job, start a business, get a better education. If a handful of people are able to make mega millions, good for them too, who cares, it doesn't affect me and I'm not going to be jealous about it and whine that the government should take it away from them because its not fair.

If you spent the time you do writing these posts and complaining about the government on bettering yourself financially I'd be willing to wager you would have far less to complain about.

Oh woah is me, I can't compete they are all out to get me, we need to force them to give me what I haven't earned because I have a heartbeat.

This my friends is the essence of the socialist disease. The idea that you are somehow owed something, that life isn't fair, that you have a right to the fruits of others labor.

Your philosophy is that of a loser. Your inability to compete is predetermined by social class and there is no hope of redemption, only by force in the name of 'the people' (theft) can you succeed. Whats worse is that instead of making your lot any better your polices will just make everyone else as miserable and helpless as you feel you are.

Give me a break.

Lets use some examples.

My inlaws. MIL no college degree, FIL college degree, doesn't use it. FIL worked for a big company for a while but always wanted a business of his own, they were all borderline failures. MIL with no college degree went to work for a big company, slowly worked her way up over almost 35 years, but never above middle management. No big bonus, stock options, etc.

They are now millionaires and quite comfortable. She still works for the company, he is retired (works his ass off for free but thats another topic) and handles their investments. How? By not whining about how unfair it was but being frugal and investing.

Me. I'm currently in the top 10% of wage earners in this country. This isn't to brag, I don't feel rich nor do I live my life any different than I did 5 years ago. The difference was 5 years ago, in my early 30's I was in the bottom 25%, apparently in the helpless % that can only succeed with the governments help.

Now lets take my great uncle. He was a fat cat. He worked for a MAJOR corporation, was the nationwide VP (back when VP meant something), his company was bought out and he got a golden parachute. Only instead of going back to work he lived off that parachute for a while, it ran out, and he is now pretty much dirt poor and too old to work.

What you are advocating is the story of the ant and the grasshopper, only in this version the grasshopper demands the ant gives up half his stuff under penalty of imprisonment in the name of the people.
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