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Old 11-19-2007, 12:51 AM   #11 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
So the government, voting in by said baby boomers, do a poor job of it, and now the baby boomers expect their children to fix it?

Just wanna make sure I get that straight.

If the government is 'of the people' then the people paying fucked up.

If their solution to fix it is to tax me more, thats not exactly fair to those being taxed extra to fix up the fuck up they allowed to happen now is it?

But where exactly did I say increase taxes????

I believe I talked about cutting pork, like multimillion dollar bridges to no where and using that money to buy back some of the IOUs in Social Security.

As pointed out above and especially with wages barely holding stable and not decreasing as prices increase and the dollar plummets, people want to know that their work is appreciated and they will have something for that age where they can rest and relax (retire). The majority of Americans are just worried about making it through the month. Foreclosure rates the highest ever, debt to income ratio the highest ever, healthcare, fuel, food, electricity, the mere cost of living highest rates ever.... yet people are getting paid less.

How do they save, yet still maintain an "American" standard of living?

The answer from most Neocons is simple.... lower your standard of living.

How fucking sad is that? For 231 years this country has always moved forward and made sure the next generation had a better chance to succeed and had a better lifestyle..... but the Neocons want us to go backward now. They don't want to figure out ways to move forward that will work for all, like ohhhhh raising import tariffs, making appropriations and finance bills minimal wording with no pork, looking at CEO golden parachutes and extremely sad but almost laughable salaries, giving tax cuts to the rich and believing trickle down economics will work.... even though the past 20+ years of trickle down has destroyed this nation. The little reprieve we did have was with Clinton, and even that didn't last long with a GOP Congress that was more worried about destroying him than figuring out how to better the country.

Hey Zeus Freaking Crisps, we need plans that will work and move us forward not more "trickle down" give the rich fucking massive tax breaks, allow companies to go overseas and tax imports minimally while we tax the middle class into nothingness and pay the workers shit wages so that they can live in debt..... then take away their retirement by saying, "it just plum ran out."

When the truth is it didn't "run out" it was filled with IOUs by both sides of the aisle to pay for bridges that go no where, a war that if we had been able to spend the money on education, healthcare and retirement instead, we'd be #1 in education again, #1 in healthcare again and retirees wouldn't be reverse mortgaging their paid for houses to save what they can of their little "American Dream". (And that's just the recent pork that comes to mind.... we have 30+ years of it.)

It's time we woke up, figured it out and fucking got back to where we belong and stop accepting Neocon bullshit that "we need to just lower our standard of living, while CEOs make far more than ever, while we cut their taxes and make sure education, healthcare and a retirement are unreachable for you peons who have to truly work for a living."
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