11-18-2007, 06:48 AM
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Conspiracy Realist
Location: The Event Horizon
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Originally Posted by Martian
This is exactly what science and logic are all about.
Science is not a fixed edifice that never changes. It was, once upon a time, considered that the Earth was the center of the Universe, and that all illness was caused by an imbalance of humours. As we've discovered more about how the Universe around us works, we've adapted our scientific models. Understanding begets new theories, begets better understanding. It's a constant cycle to describe the workings of the world around us to the best of our abilities.
Frankly, I don't think anybody is even particularly concerned about the scientific explanation for paranormal phenomena such as ESP at this point. For now, evidence of their existence would suffice. And the point is that despite years of of research (and discounting one unreliable study for reasons cited above) nobody's been able to come up with anything to even suggest that this sort of thing actually occurs.
I'm very receptive to new ideas. If you can demonstrate a new concept for me, I'll learn everything I can about it. Indeed, I have learned a fair bit about ESP. One of the things I've learned is that it is a refuge of frauds and con artists, and that there is no solid evidence anywhere that such abilities actually exist. It's a powerful fantasy and subject to the Barnum effect, but if one can disassociate that desire and view the matter some objectivity, it becomes much harder to put any stock in such claims.
If someone can conclusively demonstrate to me or a source I trust in a controlled environment that such abilities do actually exist, I'll eat my crow like it's caviar. Until then, I maintain that it's all lies and scams.
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Do you believe in luck? Or is life a bunch of simple carbon based organisms bumping into one another inside a mathematical equation peppered with chaos?
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To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit.- Stephen Hawking
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