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Old 11-10-2007, 09:17 AM   #67 (permalink)
dksuddeth
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Location: bedford, tx
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
All in all, what these laws imply is that the public is capable of making decisions that are normally within the realm of law enforcement. Ideally, it means the public is given responsibility beyond what is normally expected of them. It is a responsibility typically reserved for those who are both empowered and held accountable for enforcing laws and keeping the peace.
Just because someone wears a badge does not mean they are smarter, quicker, or in any way superior to, or more responsible, than I am.

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
The problem I see is that this system is something that could easily go wrong, especially in the courts. There will be cases where one is being held accountable for manslaughter or murder charges for a situation in which he or she thought they were well within the law. What would have gone wrong, is that they misjudged the situation: they panicked, they were overwrought with emotion, etc., and they made a bad decision. People died, lives were ruined, and now someone who thought they were helping is going to jail.

While these things certainly happen even to those who work in police forces, to open these opportunities up to the public will allow for far more instances. I don't think the public is capable of adequately managing this kind of law.
and I have more faith in the general public than you do.

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
A society where everyone is armed and instilled with the belief that they should use lethal force where they deem fit seems to me a Wild West form of justice. The only thing that comforts me is that everyone also seems to have video recording devices on them. At least there will be a chance for other forms of justice to have their chance.
I don't believe that lethal force is something that can be done on a whim and if you perceived that from my posted opinions, you're reading it all wrong. I do, however, believe that just because someone doesn't wear a badge doesn't mean that they shouldn't be given full means to use lethal force when necessary. I just happen to believe that protecting my own personal property can be done with lethal force.

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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
The only justified reason to kill in self defence is to defend your own life, or the lives of others.
this is only YOUR opinion. mine is different.

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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
I agree with everyone who has said that to kill to defend property is unjustified.
and I disagree.

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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
I personally have been burgled this year. Did it piss me off? Of course. Would I for one second have considered killing the person who broke into my house, ending a human life, so that I could keep $2000 worth of consumer goods? Not for a second.
the money in my wallet pays for my wifes medications, which are necessary to sustain her health and life, so anyone attempting to take it from me is, in my mind, threatening the life of my spouse. I will shoot them over it.
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Last edited by dksuddeth; 11-10-2007 at 09:23 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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