Originally Posted by Elphaba

Given that most Iraqi's would like the US occupation to end because they believe our presence is drawing outside interference, redeploying need not be viewed as a defeat. Redeploying "over the horizon" as Senator Murtha recommended long ago is a viable solution in my opinion, and would be more "honorable" than simply packing up and going home. But "honor" and "defeat" are being politicized in this debate and as such, have no real meaning.

I don't see Pelosi as frightened at all. She simply cannot be perceived as maneuvering herself closer to the presidency and the distraction that would cause.

::waves at Josh::