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Old 11-08-2007, 01:28 PM   #36 (permalink)
Willravel
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then i'd say you are completely unfamiliar with at least half the states gun laws.
Do you notice how you're vague here? That's intentional. Do you have anything to cite?
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so you're point is that you'd rather 32 die with zero chance than to risk the possibility of more deaths, but give them a chance. thanks.
I'd rather have no one die, but this thread isn't about gun bans. I'd rather have 32 die than a reasonably higher death count, yes. The idea is to have as little injuries and fatalities as possible, after all.
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forcing him to take cover would have negated his ability to just fire with no concern. this gives students a chance, but I'm beginning to understand that you'd rather just have them die than to have a chance.
You'd rather have these people murdered by idiots who were trying to be Rambo and have no concept of real consequences, but that has nothing to do with anything so maybe it's time to tone down the weak appeal to emotion fallacies. Cho taking cover wouldn't have prevented people from fleeing, and those fleeing people would have been hit.
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This is illogical. If he is only concerned with death, than he would have just shot it out with police, suicide by cop, and maybe taking one or more of them with him. This obviously wasn't what he was up to. He only wanted to kill with abandon while he faced no resistance.
He's concerned with killing fellow students that he feels are somehow deserving of death. That had nothing to do with police. Of course he wanted to kill without resistance, but assuming he would have stopped because of resistance from those he was trying to kill runs counter to reason. You do know people tried to stop him, right? Two professors held doors shut, and there were unconfirmed reports of people trying to fight back. He didn't stop and shoot himself because of any of that. He shot himself to prevent incarceration.
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maybe more signs that said 'guns not allowed' would help?
Are you really going to joke about this? What does that tell you about your feelings concerning victims? They should be armed, but because they weren't you make fun?
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