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Originally Posted by willravel
I always hear the argument, "Had more students been armed, it wouldn't have been so bad", but they fail to include in their theory that the number of bullets flying would have exponentially risen had that been the case, and even the most experienced law enforcement or military officer can tell you that more guns means a higher probability of a stray bullet hitting someone unintended even if you're well or expertly trained.
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And they would certainly know, given the mike bell incident in new york.
I also always hear the argument that mere civilians carrying would simply increase exponentially the number of innocent bystanders slaughtered because if you're not wearing a badge, you just aren't good enough.
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Originally Posted by willravel
So not only would you have the shooter, in this case Seung-Hui Cho, with the armament that was in reality able to kill 32 people and wound many more, shooting, but you'd also have people firing on him.
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You're implying that having just one other person that could fire back would only result in MORE than 32 people dead, which is clearly hypothetical, admittedly so is saying that another armed person would reduce the number of deaths but the difference between the two is that in the hypothetical of no armed students, nobody has a chance, whereas if even one person is armed, there IS a chance.
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Originally Posted by willravel
The Norris Hall location (the first of three areas where Seung-Hui Cho opened fire) provides a lot of cover, which could very reasonably mean a long and drawn out shootout with stray bullets heading in multiple directions. Not only that, but most of the buildings in that area were occupied on that particular morning. Bear in mind that in 9 minutes over 170 rounds were fired from Seung-Hui Cho alone, and the ammunitions were hollow point (making the impact much worse).
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This is assuming that little hui cho would be totally unconcerned about someone firing back at him. This is CLEARLY false because he took his own life before the cops could get him. The only shootout i've ever seen where the gunmen were totally unconcerned about anyone firing back happened to be the two in the north hollywood shootout. Maybe because they had head to toe body armor, you think? statistics show that cops have a higher percentage of random victims in shootings than do non-leos. gunfacts.info
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Originally Posted by willravel
The Virginia Tech case clearly illustrates why guns should not be allowed on campus.
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and guns weren't allowed on campus but that obviously didn't stop cho, did it?