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Old 11-08-2007, 07:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
kramus
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Originally Posted by tecoyah
As always Kramus....freakin' amazing skills....fantastic
Thanks Tec - It is a pleasure when somebody seems to "get" everything


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Originally Posted by fredweena
Kramus, I want to put you in Mixed Media's art appreciation thread.
I love your fanciful creatures and the personality you give to every piece.
Hey - that is a real cudo fredweena!
I do try to make the things I draw real in my own way, and it is a gladsome thing that you find the pieces work for you.


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Originally Posted by amonkie
Kramus, first off - the digital online files do NOT do these images justice, after having the extreme pleasure of seeing these pieces in person.

That being said. I think the first time I was suprised was that your work was able to evoke reaction in me. The pieces that did that were often unposed, felt natural, and just pulled at me. While I love the sun piece.. It is very hard to do it time as an art piece because there is so much going on. This isn't a piece I'd keep on the wall, its one I'd have in my lap to keep looking at all the details.

The women figures... while they are pretty, they still feel too posed. I have seen you look at the same thing I am and sketch it, and when you add your insight in the view... that is when I feel you seperate yourself from merely a sketch done in color. I hope that makes sense. The pieces where you have invested a part of yourself are easy to pick out, and those are the ones that I enjoy the most.
Thanks amonkie. It was a real treat to have you make it to the art show, not to mention that first Rochester get-together
Now, posed vs unposed - if you could give me examples? I am so close to these things that what may be obvious to you is not so clear to me. I feel like a dog who knows a ball is somewhere in the grass, and I am circling around with my nose to the ground and meanwhile there it sits in plain sight. Are pieces overworked? Too mannered in some way? Is it the fact that the models actually are posing, or that I draw inspiration from places like the Titty Board, which is another form of posing? Enquiring minds want to know


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Originally Posted by ngdawg
I agree with Fredweena, et al. I know it's almost a requirement to do model poses-it keeps one's vision lucid, helps with proportional exercises, etc. If you are to hawk your work, leave those out; just keep doing them for the 'practice'(like you need practice).
What's so fantastic about your work is, beyond any technical applications, is the desire of the onlooker to keep looking, finding new details to intrigue and keep the eyes glued.
Your best work are those not in color-the colors don't enhance the otherwise beautiful lines. And that blue model....how'd you see me sitting there??
I would love to show your work to the gallery owner I deal with. Hm...I do have that piece here at home....
A suggestion to get this stuff out there: Check around the galleries and art associations(everything you can reasonably drive to) and see if there are juried shows for you to enter. Join every art association you can, too. Put yourself on mailing lists for these places so you know everything that's coming up. Join any free artists sites you see, even those that have 'trial periods', like Yetty or ArtPromote.
Consider places like Cafepress, where you can start a store free of charge and put things on shirts, mugs, posters, etc.
Thanks, ng. Re the model poses - I remember someone in a gallery telling me "Nudes are really popular" so I have kept some of the posed work in my portfolio. It would be nice to sell it, but I do enjoy the craft and exercise of figure drawing. Plus the fact of course that I am a huge fan of the female form. It would be cool to draw you with or without a blue pencil
I am torn about the colour thing. It seems that if I want to make any money I need to get painting. Which I intend to do, and will find very enjoyable. But the fine, detailed drawing is such a pleasure as well. You help encourage me to keep doing that.
I did a brief search for Yetty and ArtPromote. For Yetty I came up dry - could you maybe send me a link? ArtPromote seems like a really expensive place. I would need to think about that one. But thanks for the suggestions and the CafePress idea. I have that bookmarked now.
Thanks again, everyone, for taking the time to look and respond. That is why I started this beast of a thread
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