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Originally Posted by xxxafterglow
HAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAAAA!!!!!!
A people's history that dates back to 2000 BC sure as hell is culture.
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You're not addressing my point. The thread is about boycotting the olympics because China's government is oppressive. I cite as an example of this internet censorship (something that hasn't hit the US yet), and you say something about culture. Okay, I say to myself, what does spying and censoring have to do with culture? Then you reply with "We've been around for 2000 years!" Um, actually people have been in China for hundreds of thousands of years, and the Xia dynasty was 2070 BCE (something anyone can figure out with wikipedia). But none of that has jack to do with the thread.
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Originally Posted by xxxafterglow
Mmmhmm, considering America also spies on its people and we consider ourselves VERY cultured.... we're walking that road, brother.
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So because one US administration has screwed the pooch in a major way the US and China are on equal footing? Or is it that the behaviors of the Chinese government are inexcusable and instead of addressing them, which would go along with the thread, you're deflecting?
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Originally Posted by xxxafterglow
China's got a rich and diverse history. It will rise up as a world superpower on its own, without relying on the West.
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It's relying on the west right now a great deal, and the reason it didn't develop as a superpower on it's own was because of partisanship and xenophobia in the 1400s. Hilariously, it was because China was a unified "culture" that 30 years of poor government caused expansion to come to a standstill allowing Spain and thus Europe to gain a strong lead. Of course, you know all about that being educated and all.
The point is that stupid government is China's worst enemy, and oppression and censorship is massively stupid.
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Originally Posted by xxxafterglow
Please, go ahead and argue for the sake of FREE SPEECH FREE SPEECH! And condemn China for its censorship but you don't live there and you've never been there (it seems) and you aren't going there... so it's nothing but uninformed armchair protesting from a citizen of a country that's equally guilty of censorship and misinformation.
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Tell you what, guess how many time I've been to China, then guess how many friends I have there. Then guess what that has to do with being educated about a region or country.
Here is some information for the uninformed.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/...in531567.shtml
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/world...t.exclude.html
http://www.cfr.org/publication/11515/
http://www.cecc.gov/pages/virtualAcad/exp/
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/filtering/china/
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Originally Posted by xxxafterglow
We've got our own problems in the States to deal with. Like the severe lack of World Cultures education in our schools. Or the censorship. Or the human rights violations. Or the preemptive war. Or the lack of health care. Or the income gap. Or the way the lack of information and proliferation of media spin conveniently keeps our citizens ignorant and easy to herd like cattle.
Sounds like it's time to get educated.
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So because we have problems no one else does? Or we should just ignore them?