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Old 11-04-2007, 02:26 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I'm guessing, considering their reactions to the thread OP, that Ustwo and Cynthetique are not engaged in conversations with reasonable American muslims from the middle east. Ustwo, do you reckon that you are perceived as approachable, in the eyes of an Iranian American, to be given the unsolicited "news" of the contradictory requirments of Palestinian land ownership, my friend described to me?
You would guess wrong. I'm willing to bet I have more Muslim friends than you have as they were a prominent part of my university program. I have a standing invitation stay with one if I visit Egypt.

It is BECAUSE of this interaction, that I put very little in what they say with regards to Israel. One of my better friends there, was a Palistinian whos family lived in Jordan. We were working late on a project and started to discuss the whole Israeli problem. My take was until the entire Jewish controlled area of Israel was no longer Jewish controlled, their will never be peace, he denied this. Then he thought for a moment and sort of smiled and said, something like 'Though we are taught a prophecy that they will be pushed back into the sea'.

My Egyptian friend I asked about the Taliban back when they were busy destroying the Buddhist statues. He said 'well you know, they can do what they do' and refused to take a stance on it. Later when we were talking about Egypt and how they are able to manage with Jews and Christians and he said, unabashed, that it was because they were ruled by Muslims.

The propaganda these people are fed daily by a government controlled press is amazing. What they perceive is happening will have very little to do with reality.

Oh and a side note, on 9/11 I offered to drive some of the Muslim girls home for safeties sake in case there issues, after all we had no idea what public reaction would be and no one doubted that it was Islamic terror, there isn't much other kind these days. They declined mine and another classmates offer, because they couldn't be alone with another man, problem was they were both Saudis and being women not allowed to drive. Not sure how they got back.

BTW these same women didn't get upset with anything including 9/11 UNTIL they saw the footage of the Taliban executing women. THEN they were pissed off and said 'A MUSLIM DOESN'T DO THAT!'

You see host it has BEEN my exposure to their culture, which has me skeptical there will ever be peace while Israel exists, and I'd rather not see it destroyed. As such I support the US military support of Israel and don't worry if it means some Theocratic dictatorships raise the price of oil in between killing homosexuals and oppressing their minorities while teaching their children that death in allahs name is glorious.
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