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Old 11-03-2007, 09:47 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by host
The state of Delaware includes a 20 percent black population
http://www.statehealthfacts.org/prof...=6&cat=1&rgn=9

versus 12 percent nationally
http://www.statehealthfacts.org/prof...=1&cat=1&ind=6

Just 5 percent of first year students at U Delaware are black:
http://collegesearch.collegeboard.co...0&profileId=24


If any of the organizations you've mentioned were responsible for undermining the DOJ and harassing the minority voters the DOJ civil rights voting enforcement section was supposed to protect, and if they were part of an obsessive mega rich christian fundamentalist collective that has "given us" Blackwater, or a secret committtee that screens GOP presidential candidates who present the group with private speeches, as Bush himself did in San Antonio in Oct., 1999, or "delivered" a propaganda "talk radio" message via a national network of 1200 radio stations, and had literally taken over the political party platform and significant portions of the day to day operations of the executive branch and the pentagon policy....yeah, they would justly be labeled the same way by me...but they haven't, and are not organized, poised, or committed to do so, are they?
... and?

The demographics of the state and the university don't tell us much about this program or what may have been right or wrong about it. You don't know if the lack of black students at UD is because admissions discriminates against them, because they don't apply, because they aren't academically qualified, or because those students prefer other schools. I'm not saying it's not a problem. I'm just saying we can't tell WHAT the problem IS without looking a lot closer.

And really, WHO reported this has little to do with WHAT HAPPENED. I get that you don't feel those are credible sources, but it says something to me that the university rolled over so quickly and doesn't want to discuss or defend themselves - and that it happened BEFORE the mainstream media got involved.

Not to mention, the complaints about the program, and the heightened awareness came from students. It's not as though CNP sought out offensive education programs and recruited students to publicize a "poster case". Students were upset about what they were being forced to do and complained. There's nothing particularly interesting or novel about that. I was called a fascist because students were asked to choose between workshops on things like career networking and disease prevention. That's just what students do - they complain and they organize. It's a good and natural thing too, because they are at an age when they ought to be caring about things that happen around them, and they ought to be learning how to leverage their opinions into action.

If this particular program crossed the line into indoctrination (which the university doesn't even really deny, at least not yet) then this is actually a great and relevant story to the people who fund the university. It's just a shame that more information isn't readily available.
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