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Old 11-02-2007, 03:49 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by MrTia
cool! i'm happy to be corrected.

i actually can't listen to audio on the computer i'm on now. do the stories about venezuela discuss the possibility that it might have been at least partially orchestrated by the CIA? [i'm not saying it was, but the allegation is out there, and from what i've heard, it's essentially credible...] does the peak oil story talk about the possibility that there might not be a way to fix the problem and maintain our current level of consumption using alternative fuels? because i think i mis-spoke. it's not these topics in themselves that are untouchable, but certain points of view on them that are beyond mainstream purview even though they strike me as reasonable.
Yes - you can read it in the articles I pasted links of. Mark Hertsgaard (second transcript in the Peak Oil thread) talks about the finite oil supply. I believe the second link on Venezuela mentions the US's possible involvement in the coup.

NPR won't save the world but it's on the right track. I'd wager that most NPR listeners also scan other news sources for their information, hence listeners are well-informed. NPR programs are made in a way that encourages listeners to draw their own conclusions and seek out more information versus douchebag O'Reilly/Tucker Carlson's methods of winning arguments by yelling and kicking people off the show.

Man, I really hate them. I don't hate many things, but I really hate them.

The people should control the media, not be controlled by it.

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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70
I don't have time to listen to the stories to find the answer to your questions, but something to keep in mind is that "balanced" reporting does not mean (or, at least, should not mean) giving all points of view equal time. Some points of view are more credible than others, and part of a journalist's job is discerning what things have a basis in the facts and what things don't have enough evidence to report. Even if the possibility that the CIA orchestrated the situation in Venezuela is credible, I don't want to hear it being reported unless they have credible sources for the claims. (Keep in mind that I have not read about these claims, so maybe there are credible source. My point is simply that seeming reasonable and being credible are two different things.)
The credible sources (witnesses) regarding actual US involvement in the coup have all escaped to Miami or are in hiding in Venezuela. The government did get a call from their military personnel that there was a US helicopter seen on the night of the coup. There are documents showing the US government funding the insurgent organization that led the coup.

Draw your own conclusions.
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