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Old 11-02-2007, 02:09 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by filtherton
My apologies. The collective cock of the greatest generation must have momentarily slipped out of my mouth.

I take back the part about him having no qualms about killing innocent folk.

ahem. may he rest in peace.
nice, man. lol.

i read some of the posts here, not all, and i'm surprised that everyone is just buying lock stock and barrel the idea that the bomb was dropped to end the war early when it's just as likely it was done as a big up-yours to the soviets. the japanese goose was pretty much cooked by that point and from what i read some factions in the japanese government were already negotiating with other factions of the japanese government to arrange a surrender. i think the only sticking point was that the truman admin didn't want to leave the emperor in power -- but that after they dropped the bombs they left the emperor in power anyway. and if they wanted to provoke the japanese to surrender why not a demonstration strike on an unpopulated area? if that didn't kowtow the japanese there was always a bomb in reserve to drop on a populated area to drive the point home.

anyway, once the bomb was successful conventional invasion of japan was just as likely as not to be off the table. that charmer macarthur had plans drawn up to systematically bomb japan with more than a dozen atomic bombs, it was only a matter of manufacturing them -- which would have been a fairly simple matter, i'm guessing, as opposed to marshalling another normandy-style mobilization effort.

nah, as the saying goes -- i think the a-bomb wasn't the last shot of world war ii so much as the first shot of the cold war. as for tibbets, i dont mean to harsh him out but he had some strange compatriots -- i've always associated him with macarthur and with that weirdo edward teller. he used to fly re-enactments of the hiroshima bombing, which always struck me as more than a little morbid.
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