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Originally Posted by Ustwo
I mean the facts are true, we did remove the Jupiter missiles, but calling it a victory for the USSR is a bit weak.
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I suppose it all depends upon whether or not your (or my) view is that the Soviets actually WANTED missiles on Cuba or if their whole intention was to have the Ameicans move theirs’ out of Turkey.
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Originally Posted by host
The Soviets backed down publicly, agreeing to remove all nuclear missiles from
Cuba, while the agreement by the US to remove Jupiter missiles from Turkey was not revealed publicly until two years later.....
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Yes. I often wonder what the Soviets were given in return for keeping the fact subdued. I simply can’t believe that Kruschev gave Kennedy a break just because he was “a nice guy”. Have you any ideas or suggestions?
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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
The trade was offered in the clear on Radio Moscow and accepted in the clear on Radio Moscow. Bhreshnev et al, all direct heirs of Stalin, felt that Khrushchev failed the country by not have the power or force of personality to impose Soviet will upon the rest of the world. It directly lead to his downfall and was acknowledged as such in his autobiography. Sergei Khrushchev, Nikita's son, also has stated many times that his father felt that the Missle Crisis effectively ended his career and that it scared him how close the world came to nuclear holocaust.
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An interesting post. I'd like to read more. Have you got a link?
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Originally Posted by biznatc
Yes, this is nothing new.
As a side note, there are "secret conditions" that have been created in fictional versions of the Cold War, and it does make sense ....... in the video game Metal Gear Solid 3, the USSR agrees to remove the missiles only if their fictional prominent nuclear missile scientist (who had defected) is returned to them, so he could complete work on a more advanced weapon.
I guess that doesn't belong to Politics, but it's interesting to think, "if there was anything we didn't know about that was said or agreed, and still don't know, what could they be?".
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Where is Superman when we REALLY need nim? Just tell me that, will you please!
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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
If you want to talk about obsure events impacting the Crisis, though, why don't you try the Sino-Indian War that was raging at this exact moment?
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Originally Posted by Elphaba
If you can quote Bobby Kennedy's recommendation that likely prevented both countries from mutual annihilation, we can then have an interesting discussion about what was said and, more importantly what was not said.
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Good idea. I think you guys should submit them.