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Old 10-28-2007, 11:17 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by loganmule
There were no deaths in Iraq last week, and none of the major news networks reported that during prime time...liberal bias? Your example clearly shows conservative bias, and frankly, I'm shocked that someone didn't pick up on it, because it's great news, in the most inflammatory sense.

Wouldn't it be great if news people only reported the complete truth with regard to all significant events, and just stopped there, leaving us to figure out what to make of it? Maybe in an alternate universe, but not here, with the confluence of political influence, both liberal and conservative, and ratings driving the news.
Please be better prepared, when you post. I put a lot of time/effort into my posts.


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http://www.newshounds.us/2007/10/26/...g_about_it.php
<h3>Kimeade: not one US military person killed in Iraq this week, but no one's talking about it</h3>
Reported by Chrish - October 26, 2007 - 184 comments

On FOX and Friends this morning 10/26/07 host Brian Kilmeade, teasing a later segment with FOX's favorite Iran-Contra figure Oliver North, announced that "not one US military, member of the military, was killed in Iraq for the first time since 2004 this past week, and almost no one's talking about it." Probably because it ain't so.

The website Iraq Coalition Casualty Count has been tracking US and coalition deaths since the beginning of the war. Their figures are confirmed by the Defense Department and the over 1,000 deaths of American contractors in Iraq are reported separately. According to their figures, four Americans have been confirmed killed by the DoD in Iraq since October 19 (one week ago) and two killed soldiers' names have not yet been released, for a total of six, so I don't know what the hell he's talking about.

Even supposing that what he said had been true, it is unreasonable to expect the media to report on the absence of deaths when they don't as a rule report on the mounting deaths. One has to search that information out on the web. When's the last time you heard a newscaster give a to-date casualty figure? Certainly not on FOX, and glaringly absent (like the flag-draped coffins that represent them) on the rest of the mainstream media.

In the actual segment with North, Kilmeade repeated the wishful falsehood, that "In Iraq there were no casualties in the Al-Anbar Province last week, or in Iraq, US casualties..." and he cited other statisitics (which, given the outright provable falsity of his first statement are to be taken with a pound of salt) that shore up the administration's and North's contentions that the situation in Iraq is really improving. The banner reinforced the upbeat assessment: "Iraq Casualties Down - 2nd consecutive decline."

After reciting the positive stats, he said "It sounds like I'm making this up!" Well, yes it does.
North supplemented the favorable appraisal with his personal observations, concluding "this is a war that's being won, it's a war we dare not lose" and lamented that the good news is never covered.

It'll be unavoidable soon, said Kilmeade, because it's going to be an election issue.

The rest of the segment was a lengthy plug for North's FOX program. War Stories.

Yes...it has been a better month, than in the recent past, as far as the number of US troops killed in Iraq. My sister's son was deployed there, a month ago. My wife's son is currently serving in his second combat deployment, in another frontline area of the war. I wish these two members of my family, and all of the rest of US troops in service to our country, injury free deployment and a safe return to the US.

Our soldiers are still dying in Iraq:
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http://icasualties.org/oif/prdDetail...hndRef=10-2007

http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?op...878&Itemid=128
Saturday, 27 October 2007

Multi-National Corps – Iraq
Public Affairs Office, Camp Victory
APO AE 09342

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
RELEASE No. 20071027-01
October 27, 2007

MND-N unit attacked
Multi-National Division – North

TIKRIT, Iraq – A U.S. Soldier assigned to Multi-National Division – North was killed when he sustained small arms fire while conducting operations in Salah ad Din Oct. 25.

The name of the deceased is being withheld pending next of kin notification and release by the Department of Defense.

http://icasualties.org/oif/pdf/20071...ND-B-MND-B.pdf
BAGHDAD – A Multi-National Division-Baghdad Soldier was killed and four
others wounded when their unit was attacked with an explosively-formed
penetrating device in a southern section of the Iraqi capital Oct. 25.
Units operating in this area of Baghdad continue to conduct targeted raids
and clearing operations in order to disrupt insurgent and militia elements
operating in this section of Baghdad. Destroying these cells stabilizes the
neighborhoods, further setting the conditions for Iraqi Security Force control.
The deceased Soldier’s name is being withheld pending notification of
next of kin and release by the Department of Defense.

http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/...eleaseid=11436
October 26, 2007
DoD Identifies Army Casualty

The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Staff Sgt. Robin L. Towns Sr., 52, of Upper Marlboro, Md., died Oct 24 in Bayji, Iraq, of wounds suffered when an improvised explosive device detonated near his Humvee during combat operations. He was assigned to the 275th Military Police Company, 372nd Military Police Battalion, Washington, D.C. National Guard.

http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/...eleaseid=11438
October 26, 2007
DoD Identifies Army Casualty

The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Pfc. Adam J. Chitjian, 39, of Philadelphia, Pa., died Oct 25 in Balad, Iraq, of injuries sustained when he came in contact with enemy forces using small arms during combat operations. He was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 8th Cavalry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, Fort Hood Texas
....and loganmule....how did the pundits who are not to the left of center in the US....transition from these sentiments about Walid Jumblatt:
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http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...our_enemy.html
September 17, 2005
Chirac meeting with our enemy again

According to Al Hayat, French president <h3>Chirac is going to host Walid Jumblatt at the Elysee Palace on Friday. Time and time again, Chirac sides with our enemies and treats them as royalty</h3>; Arafat was the most recent example.

But who is Walid Jumblatt?

<h3>He is a virulent anti—American and anti—Semitic Lebanese politician.....</h3>

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...French...&only
It's Hard Not to Hate the French...

Wed, Dec 1, 2004 at 5:00:42 pm PST

....The French knew perfectly well what sort of vipers they were dealing with at Al-Manar, when they granted permission for this terrorist propaganda outlet to broadcast in France.

In other “hard not to hate the French” news, the American Thinker’s Olivier Guitta reports that head weasel Jacques Chirac is going to host America-hating Lebanese Druze leader Walid Jumblatt at the Elysee Palace on Friday: Chirac Meeting Our Enemy Again.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/D...mes_your_enemy
The enemy of your enemy is sometimes your enemy
By Diana West
Wednesday, March 16, 2005

......But the European Union says no, Hezbollah is not a terrorist group.
Or, rather, the European Union says ?non,? Hezbollah is not a terrorist group, because, of course, it is La France that is most vigorously warding off Hezbollah?s scarlet ?T.? Which makes Paris a good and plenty picturesque place for demonstrations to begin. So what if Jacques Chirac said the timing is not right for the terror-tag, even after the disco bombing in Tel Aviv last month, which Israel attributes to Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and Syria. Where France is concerned, it never is the right time.

Meanwhile, Hezbollah?s Nasrallah himself -- <h3>Walid Jumblatt?s idea of a great leader and, not incidentally, Jacques Chirac?s idea of a great guest</h3> (he honored the terror kingpin with an invitation to a Francophone summit in 2002) -- has given the European Union the best possible reason to declare his terrorist organization, well, a terrorist organization. As reported by World Net Daily, Nasrallah told Al Manar, which is Hezbollah TV, that being designated a terrorist organization by the European Union would ?destroy? Hezbollah. ?The sources of (our) funding will dry up,? he said, ?and the sources of moral, political and material support will be destroyed.?.......
...to Bush and Cheney both meeting with Jumblatt...in Bush's case....just 17 months after the date of the preceding American "Thinker" attack on Chirac...for doing the identical thing.... and Cheney has publicly praised Jumblatt, at least twice, and admitted on Oct. 21, to meeting with Jumblatt, several times....

Again....how does the "noise making" supporting Bush and Cheney, know when...in unison...to turn it on....and turn it off? Was there a "mem", explaining that Jumblatt had apologized for voicing support for the killing of US soldiers, "week in, and week out"? I didn't get it.....

It's "off" here:
<center><img src="http://www.mahablog.com/wp-content/uploads/scarf6.jpg">
Laura Bush takes a tour lead by Adnan Husseini inside the Muslim holy shrine the Dome of the Rock in the Muslim Quarter of Jerusalem’s Old City, May 22, 2005. White House photo by Krisanne Johnson</center>

.....and it's "off" here:
<center><img src="http://www.mahablog.com/wp-content/uploads/condihijab.jpg"></center>

...but, the GOP/conservative noise machine was switched on full here:
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http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...try=25004&only
Pelosi in a Hijab

Tue, Apr 3, 2007 at 11:36:05 am PST

The modern Democratic leadership.
<center><img src="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/20070403PelosiSyria01.jpg">
U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, wears a scarf inside Ommayad Mosque during her tour at a popular market in downtown Damascus, Syria, Tuesday April 3, 2007. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi arrived in Syria on Tuesday, the highest-ranking American politician to visit the country since relations began to deteriorate four years ago. <h3>President George W. Bush criticized the trip, saying it sends mixed signals to President Bashar Assad.</h3> (AP Photo/Hussein Malla)
</center>

<h3>There was no criticism from Bush of three republican members of congress who preceded Pelosi in Damascus, the week before:</h3>
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US congressmen tell Syria to stop destabilizing Iraq , Lebanon
Monday, 2 April, 2007 @ 5:53 AM

Beirut- Three US Republican members of Congress on Sunday told Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to prevent anti-American fighters from infiltrating Iraq, in a rare encounter between the two countries.

Frank Wolf of Virginia, Joseph Pitts of Pennsylvania and Robert Aderholt of Alabama were in Damascus ahead of a visit this week by US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi whose inclusion of Syria on her Middle East tour was condemned by the White House.

A US diplomatic source in Damascus said Pelosi would arrive in Damascus on Tuesday and leave the following day. During her stay she would meet Assad and discuss Syrian-US ties and regional issues.

Washington's top Democrat will also tell Syrian officials that Israel is ready to revive peace talks if Damascus stops supporting "terrorism," according to the Israeli government spokesman.

Miri Eisin said Pelosi had asked Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert on Sunday what she could tell Syrian officials following her visit to Israel.

"It should first of all stop supporting terrorism," Eisin quoted Olmert as telling the speaker. "We will be happy to talk with it if it does so."

Peace talks between Israel and Syria collapsed in 2000 over the parties' inability to agree on the Golan Heights, a strategic plateau that Israel captured from Syria during the 1967 Six Day War and subsequently annexed.

In a statement on the visit by the three republicans released by the US embassy, the lawmakers said they had also repeated their demands at meetings with Syrian businessmen, religious figures and opposition leader Riad Seif.

"In all our meetings... we raised the issue of stopping foreign fighters who are killing American soldiers and innocent Iraqis from entering Iraq through Syria, ending support for Hezbollah and Hamas, recognizing Israel right to exist in peace and security, and ceasing interfering in Lebanon," it said.

Washington, which accuses Syria of helping destabilize neighboring Iraq, supporting groups labeled terrorist by the US State Department and interfering in neighboring Lebanon, has cut contact with Damascus since the February 2005 murder of Lebanon's former prime minister Rafiq Hariri.

The killing was widely blamed on Syria despite its insistence that it was not involved. Pelosi will visit Lebanon on Monday, where she is due to meet parliament -backed Prime Minister Fouad Siniora before heading to Syria

Explaining their visit to Damascus, the three lawmakers said: "We came because we believe there is an opportunity for dialogue."

Syria's official news agency SANA said the US delegation had discussed with Assad "the situation in the region, particularly in Iraq."

The White House has denounced the Damascus visit by Pelosi -- a determined opponent of Republican President George W. Bush's Iraq war policies -- and warned she may hand Assad a symbolic diplomatic victory.

"Assad probably really wants people to come and have a photo opportunity and have tea with him and have discussions about where they're coming from, but we do think that it's a really bad idea," said spokeswoman Dana Perino.

Democratic lawmakers traveling with Pelosi, who was in Israel on Sunday, include House Foreign Affairs Committee chairman Tom Lantos and House Government Reform Committee chairman Henry Waxman and Keith Ellison, the first Muslim elected to the US Congress.

Picture: Syrian President Bashar al-Assad (L) meeting with a US delegation in Damascus. ...Three Republican congressmen -- Frank Wolf of Virginia, Robert Aderholt of Alabama and Joseph Pitts of Pennsylvania.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200704050012


Thu, Apr 5, 2007 6:32pm ET

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Media quoted criticism of Pelosi for wearing headscarf in Middle East without noting that Rice, Laura Bush have also done so

News reports in the Associated Press and the New York Post, and an editorial in Investor's Business Daily, quoted Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney criticizing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) by saying that "being seen in a head scarf and so forth is sending the wrong signal to the people of Syria and to the people of the Middle East," without noting that Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and first lady Laura Bush have both done the same when visiting the Middle East.

An April 5 article in the New York Post asserted, "From the campaign trail in Iowa, GOP presidential hopeful Mitt Romney slammed Pelosi's diplomatic excursion," before offering Romney's quote:

"I just don't know what got into her head, to be completely honest with you," he said.

"Her going to a state which is, without question, a sponsor of terror, and having her picture taken with Assad and being seen in a head scarf and so forth is sending the wrong signal to the people of Syria and to the people of the Middle East."

An April 4 AP report similarly noted Romney's criticism without offering any context. Neither that report nor the Post article made it clear in the text that Pelosi wore the scarf during a visit to the tomb of John the Baptist inside the Umayyad mosque in Damascus and not in her meeting with with Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad. Romney's quote could be read to suggest that Pelosi wore the scarf during that meeting. A photo accompanying the Post article shows clearly that Pelosi's head was not covered when she met with Assad.

Additionally, an editorial in the April 5 edition of Investor's Business Daily asserted, "Anyone who thinks Nancy Pelosi showing up wearing a scarf around her head visiting a mosque" will lead to peace negotiations "won't even make janitor in the foreign service." The editorial continued, "Speaking of that scarf, one waggish Canadian commentator remarked that 'given the maple leaf-studded head scarf she donned before entering a Syrian mosque yesterday, American House Speaker Nancy Pelosi could have been an ambassador for Canada,' " adding that Pelosi "represented the dovish foreign policy of the land of the maple leaf a lot more than that of a post-9/11 America leading a global war on terror."

By contrast, an April 5 article in the Los Angeles Times noted that the conservative "Family Research Council disapproved of Pelosi for consenting to the Islamic custom of covering her head during a visit to a mosque," and added, "The group said doing so 'is usually seen as a sign of submission in the Muslim world.' " But the article went on to note that "U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and First Lady Laura Bush are among many high-profile women who do the same when in the Mideast."

As early as 6:38 p.m. ET on April 3, Internet gossip Matt Drudge had a picture of Pelosi wearing the scarf on the front page of his Drudge Report website. That picture moved to the top story as early as 7:12 p.m.
<h3>What "hand" turns it on, and turns it off?</h3> How are Bush and Cheney able to meet with a man who expressed enthusiasm over the killing of American soldiers in Iraq...enthusiasm for the destruction of the US space shuttle, accused Bush of involvement in the 9/11 attacks....and the response from the American press is essentially a news "blackout", while the hair trigger, of the conservative pundits, so quickly pulled when Nancy Pelosi visited Syria, and when Chirac received Walid Jumblatt in Paris, in 2005.... is not pulled when Bush receives Jumblatt at the white house, or after Cheney meets with Jumblatt a praises him?

Please explain how it gets turned on and then off....in lockstep?

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