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Old 10-25-2007, 05:53 AM   #264 (permalink)
Cynthetiq
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Originally Posted by willravel
ASU - Kaiser is a non-profit, that doesn't stop it from turing down life saving surgeries and overcharging. It doesn't stop it from dropping off uninsured patients on the street. It doesn't stop it from lobbying.

Cynthetiq - stop pretending like people are trying to steal from you. If you pay less under socialized medicine, as I've already demonstrated, then you're paying less. That's actually the opposite of stealing.
will, I live in a city that takes quite good care of it's own community. the local community board impacts my day and nights MORE than President Clinton or Bush could ever do. They have more impact on my quality of life because they can be concerned about the localized issues. Why should I pay for YOUR sidewalk? Why should I care about if there is a bar 200 yards from the next one in YOUR neighborhood? Why should I be paying for roads and highways (not federal roads) in YOUR neighborhood?

will, YES you are sticking your hands into MY pockets.

Will, you've only demonstrated the theory behind it. These things aren't going to appear from thin air. Taxes will be levied in some fashion, and it will be paid for. I've demonstrated that other countries that have these socialized programs have much much higher taxes to pay for such things like socialized healthcare.
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