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ASU - Kaiser is a non-profit, that doesn't stop it from turing down life saving surgeries and overcharging. It doesn't stop it from dropping off uninsured patients on the street. It doesn't stop it from lobbying.
Cynthetiq - stop pretending like people are trying to steal from you. If you pay less under socialized medicine, as I've already demonstrated, then you're paying less. That's actually the opposite of stealing.
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