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Old 10-23-2007, 11:31 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by roachboy
circular, ace. you insist on operating entirely within the framework for thinking about taxation and economic activity that neoliberalism makes avaialble for you to use. so one way of looking at this thread is that you are trying to see if other ways of thinking about economic activity, other ways of considering the relations of the state to system activity, can be assimilated into the single perspective that you bring to the table.
I know what my perspective is. I am pretty much asking people to tell me what their perspective is as opposed to telling me that my perspective is wrong. If Supply Side is a farce, tell me what is real. My perspective is - which is a perspective shared by Laffer (and he gives credit to Keynes) is that somewhere between 0% and 100% tax rates tax collections and economic growth are maximized.

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in my view, the problem is that perspective itself.

you cant just swat that away by saying "theoretical discussions can be confusing" because if you want a dialogue, it is necessarily a theoretical one--and the claim that you own perspective prevents you from seeing anything not already processed in its own terms, is also a theoretical claim.
I have not swatted anything away, I am merely asking questions and giving my perspective.

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the irony is that neoliberalism is entirely theoretical, it is most coherent when it is not applied, when it sits on paper, when its reference points are not damage done in the world, but older theoretical models of capitalist political economy.
What economic theory is not theoretical? I guess that is a circular question.
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