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Old 10-18-2007, 10:10 AM   #74 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
ace....thanks for telling me why I support an incredibly successful health care program for children as a "stop-gap" safety net for millions of kids, the vast majority of whom are in the program for 3 years or less.... far greater in number than those whose parents may abuse or choose to become dependent on the program (that you conveniently cant quantify).

....that my motive is "just for the sake of being disagreeable".
Perhaps there was a reason you took my quote out of context. My comment was not about why you support the program but more specifically why you take the position that having access to free coverage would not give an incentive for some people to opt out of private coverage for public provided coverage.

I am sure I did not need to spell that out, but I did to make the point that either you clearly don't get what I write or you are purposefully being dense. Here is the full quote:

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Regardless of where the truth is with the Frost family, the point remains that in many cases having or purchasing private health care is a choice. People can choose to work for employers that provide coverage or not, and they can choose to purchase the coverage or not. DC's persistence in pretending that putting a free government health care program in the "mix" plays no role in the decision making of families makes me think he is arguing the point just for the sake of being disagreeable. I can not quantify the extent it happens with accuracy, but it does.
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Thanks also for posting the Chicago Trib article. It exposed another myth that Bush perpetuated when he misled the American people (lied?) about the program in his radio address following his veto:



The MYTH:
The State Children's Health Insurance Program is government-run health care.
THE REALITY
About three-quarters of the 6 million children enrolled in the program receive care through managed- care plans. These plans are run by private companies and provide services largely through networks of private hospitals and doctors.

The federal government pays about 70 percent of the bills; the states pay the rest. The states have had considerable flexibility in deciding who is eligible for the program, what benefits are offered and how the program is structured.

The program's insurance coverage is "much more similar to private insurance coverage than 'government run' programs like the Veterans Administration," says a recently published brief by the Kaiser Family Foundation.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/featur...8.story?page=2
Perhaps it is an issue of semantics. The government is paying for the program and the government sets the rules for qualification. I agree the government is not making medical related decisions.
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