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Old 10-18-2007, 08:41 AM   #82 (permalink)
Willravel
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
And you have some sort of "anything" to back that up? Or is it just another thing you've pulled out of the sky?
I went to college. This is all common knowledge. Things like how common untreatable people are and how prevention works are readily available in textbooks. As for recidivism, it's as plain as the nose on your face, I mean jesus why do you think offenders offend again after being in prison? Prison doesn't rehabilitate. Duh.
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Originally Posted by Frosstbyte
I'm just curious, will. Assuming that it's an effect method of preventing future crime, how do you propose to set up an efficient and economical system for treating all of the violent criminals? I mean, it's certainly a laudable effort to want to rehabilitate violent criminals, but we're talking about a lot of money and a lot of time to do years of psychological rehab on the millions of violent offenders in this country. Where is that all going to come from?
I recognize that any real change in the criminal justice system will take time. Things like this simply can't change over night. The thing, though, is that as long as we have the current system, we'll not really see any drop off in recidivism, or cons committing crimes. The financing is there for real rehabilitation (or it will be when Hillary comes into office and taxes go up and the troops slowly start coming home). Dems love social programs, and social programs are the only way to get this done. Privatization has massively failed at the job of rehabilitation.

The first step absolutely has to be programs for children to make sure they learn empathy, emotion management, and problem solving. These methods which have been proven to greatly reduce criminality in children would be the key to ensuring that the rates of criminals start to drop off quickly as years pass. I don't have access to the projections, so I can't say how quickly things would change, but I would expect that things would start improving in a few years.

If one were to combine that even with rather weak systems in prisons that aren't that expensive, say an additional 1 shrink per every 100 cons, I would still expect to see at least some improvement. I'm not a doctor of psychology, but I suspect that there are little tweaks that can be done in the incarceration method to improve rehabilitation.
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