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Originally Posted by pan6467
CC may have to go though. They need a more stable pitcher. I'd love to see a CC for Webb, Oswalt or possibly a Harang trade. I think any of those 3 would sign long term for less than CC and in the long term fare better.
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First of all, there is no way AZ would trade Webb. Second of all, Webb is by far the superior pitcher. If you adjust for league and park, Webb has the 8th best ERA (actually the stat is ERA+) of all time (although he hasn't had to go through declining years yet). Sabathia shows up a 184th. Webb is every bit as good as Santana, he just has the misfortune of playing for a NL West Team that isn't LA or SF, in other words nobody has ever given a shit about the DBacks and until he won his CYA nobody had even heard of him. Webb is absolutely worth $20M/yr.
Oswalt is just barely behind Webb. However the Astros signed him through 2011 with an option for 2012. It may bite them in the ass though because he's kinda damaged goods.
Harang gets attention because he's the best pitcher for a shitty Reds club. On a true contender he's a #2 starter. The Indians are much better off with CC.
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I was a HUGE Pete Rose fan (even dropped the REDS for the Phils for a period of time).... anyway, it was an all star game or a post season... Thinking all star..... and Rose is up to bat, inside pitch and he leans into it so he gets hit on the thigh and gets on first base. As soon as it hits him the camera zoomed in and you see him smiling from the time he flips his bat away to the time he gets on base. Cheap? yes.... but when you are in pro sports you should be willing to do anything that helps your team win... and he did just that. I'm pretty sure that HBP was a deciding factor in the game, just can't remember how.... maybe bases were loaded or the next hitter drove him in.... maybe someone here remembers that game better than I do.
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I mostly agree. Rose gets the base because that's how its done. However, the correct call is the call it a ball and continue the at bat. Don't you think the crowd would go apeshit?