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Originally Posted by dylanmarsh
Poor, poor Pan. Getting suckered in, once again, and here we are 8-1 in the bottom of the 5th.
CC's kung fu is weak!
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Well, he said he didn't attack them and couldn't get control of his game. I know CC is damned good and learns from his mistakes but he is still CC and lets his emotions play a part of his game.
John Farrell leaving Cleveland as director of player development, knows all the players and their weaknesses. He knows (most of baseball knows) you hit CC early he loses control fast and goes downhill in a hurry. Farrell also, knows most of the players as he watched them develop so he knows all their weaknesses better than any non Indian in baseball. But, he also knows they learn fast.
Anyone thinking the Indians were going to take 2 in Boston was smoking something.
IF (and that is a HUGE IF) the Tribe can take game 2, I'm very comfortable with the rest of the series. If Boston takes the 2-0 advantage into Cleveland, I don't think the Tribe can recover, maybe for 1 game so it won't be a sweep.... but I doubt that even.
Game 2 has the utmost importance, the Tribe wins it.... I see them taking at least 2 of 3 in Cle., going into Fenway 3-2 and taking the series.
Either way, I am extremely proud of this team and unlike the Tigers or the Chisox I see them hanging in and being a playoff team for the next few years.
CC may have to go though. They need a more stable pitcher. I'd love to see a CC for Webb, Oswalt or possibly a Harang trade. I think any of those 3 would sign long term for less than CC and in the long term fare better.
If it goes to Game 5 and CC pitches another clunker.... Maybe I'm a pessimist but I don't see him ever recovering to be the #1 man in Cle again. His confidence will be shot and I fear he'd be a pariah in Cle. Especially, if Fausto, Byrd and Westbrook win out their games or 2 of them win and at least get it to a 2-2 deadlock.
I've seen too many "great" young pitchers get to the playoffs and get rocked and come out never the same. I fear CC will be one.
I hope I am wrong and it is just the CLE sports fan mentality of "the worst will happen"....... we shall see.
BTW Beckett pitched a Hell of a game from what little I saw at work. He earned my respect tonight.
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Originally Posted by kutulu
A similar situation would be a random enforcement of the rule that states a batter must attempt to get out of the way from the ball before it hits him. Say it was a tie game in the bottom of the 9th. Bases loaded 0-2 count. Batter is HBP but didn't try to move out of the way. Ump calls it a ball instead of awarding first base and ultimately deciding the game. By the book it is the right call but the rule is never enforced. Therefore it is bullshit.
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I quote this part because I remember a similar incident in my youth.
I was a HUGE Pete Rose fan (even dropped the REDS for the Phils for a period of time).... anyway, it was an all star game or a post season... Thinking all star..... and Rose is up to bat, inside pitch and he leans into it so he gets hit on the thigh and gets on first base. As soon as it hits him the camera zoomed in and you see him smiling from the time he flips his bat away to the time he gets on base. Cheap? yes.... but when you are in pro sports you should be willing to do anything that helps your team win... and he did just that. I'm pretty sure that HBP was a deciding factor in the game, just can't remember how.... maybe bases were loaded or the next hitter drove him in.... maybe someone here remembers that game better than I do.