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Old 10-12-2007, 05:27 PM   #308 (permalink)
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That being said, I think it's safe to say that the Rockies have Webb's number. The man just couldn't get ahead in the count. Tonight's matchup between Jimenez and Davis should be an interesting one to say the least.
They do but last night was strange. Only one of the hits was a solid hit. Bloopers and rollers that stayed fair. Whatever though, the fact that they only scored one run made the pitching performance irrelevant.

A bad showing by my fellow AZ fans, throwing shit on the field but that was a bullshit call if I've ever seen one. If I may, I'll plagarize something a friend of mine wrote somewhere else:

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The rule cited is not the rule that applies. The cited rule applies to batted balls. It would apply to the case where a runner intentionally touched a rgoundball. The ball in question was no longer a batted bal since it had been caught and thrown so this rule is not applicable.

The rule is: "(d) Any batter or runner who has just been put out hinders or impedes any following play being made on a runner. Such runner shall be declared out for the interference of his teammate;"

The ball should be dead and, in my view Snyder should have been entitled to third since that is where he was when the play was made. I guess you could argue he wasn't there so he has to go back, but the umps are so inconsistent with this that I don't know the rule any more.

In any event, this rule is virutually never enforced. It is not the literal interpreation of the rule, but the capriciousnss in the neforcement that is the problem. How many times do you think the ump enforced the rule this year? How many times do you think he stood at 2b and let a runner take out a player who was 10 feet off the base? Yet now in a big moment of a big game he trots out this rule.

I pooh poohed the idea of the umps being on the take (NBA I have always questioned), but this type of call is one that starts to raise questions for me. The NBA refs were ripe for corruption because they are so bad that you can't tell whether they are incompetent or on the take.

The same with arbitrary calls like this. You have a rule that the ump can hide behind. He just uses at judicious times. I don't think this guy was on the take, but it is this type of call that really rankles me.

McClellend should not have been behind the plate. He gave the Rocks their playoff spot with his phantom tag of home call. That he delayed so long that it was questionable for that reason alone. He used to be a good ump, but it looks like he has gotten so full of himself that he calls whatever he likes when he likes. He takes so long doing that it lessens my enjoyment of the game. To have him working behind the plate in a big game is a joke.
I agree. It may have been a correct call according to the rules but it's crap because it is a rule that is almost never enforced. It wasn't as if Upton was out of the basepaths either. He was in contact with the bag the whole time.

A similar situation would be a random enforcement of the rule that states a batter must attempt to get out of the way from the ball before it hits him. Say it was a tie game in the bottom of the 9th. Bases loaded 0-2 count. Batter is HBP but didn't try to move out of the way. Ump calls it a ball instead of awarding first base and ultimately deciding the game. By the book it is the right call but the rule is never enforced. Therefore it is bullshit.

MLB has a few issues like this they need to address ASAP. Another similar rule is the 'phantom double play tag'. I can't remember who AZ was playing but one of our hitters hit into what looked like a 4-6-3. There was one out at the time. The ump said that our opponent didn't tag 2nd, therefore the runner on second was safe. Correct call but bullshit.
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