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Old 10-12-2007, 09:02 AM   #16 (permalink)
Willravel
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Because a few heinous crimes are so horrific that they get tried as an adult does not mean we need more people living off their parents with no clue about the economy voting. We have college kids for that.
Most people who vote have no clue about the economy.
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Originally Posted by BOR
You're taking a fork in the road, that leads to a dead end. Are kids people? Of course they are. That's just silly. Now...are kids "adults", or not?
Well...when a 14 year old "kid", that probably should be playing Little League Baseball, picks up a 9mm and blows away a 1st grader, while in the process of attempting to kill 2 teenage girls? That 14 year old has, in my opinion, forfeited his right to the rest of his childhood.
He should be imprisoned, sure, but tried as an adult? The reason we have separations for adults and children is simple: children are still developing. The 14 year old boy is not the same person as the 30 year old man. He has not yet developed his full understandings of right and wrong to be a part of his perception of the world.
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Originally Posted by Cynth
are you serious in that taxation without representation assertion? if so then you figure that we must have representation for tourists too since they too pay these taxes with no chance of refund like the Global Tax Refund ... I'm sorry that's an absurd assertion since the parents are the guardians and responsible representative for the children. This is why they are trying to change laws to make the parents responsible for the child's behavoir and their contribution to their behavior. The OP situation the mother was charged with unlawful transfer of a fiream, possession of a firearm by a minor, corruption of a minor, endangering the welfare of a child and two counts of reckless endangerment.

So you'd also like for children to be able to enter into binding contracts before 18...the idea and assertion are you making is absurd at best.
Parents aren't given two votes, so when it comes to the right to vote, they are not a representative for the children. Would I like children to be able to enter into a contract? They are at birth. As citizens, they have as a sort, entered into a contract with the US government that they'll pay taxes and not break the law, go to school and obey curfew. Yet we have a shitty school system and we have kids that are arbitrarily charged as adults. That would be less likely to happen if people under the age of 18 could vote.

BTW, calling something absurd without representing why it's absurd is wasting everyone's time.
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