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Old 10-10-2007, 06:38 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Shauk
well I don't know that degree of stuff like what you listed off. I feel like what I know is a step above the average person, but a step or 3 below the paid professionals. It's a start I guess.

for example there's a listing for stuff like database administration for Oracle or for SQL type stuff, I've "dabbled" as in maybe spent a total of 2 hours messing around with it when I had a website up and running and had to get some mods working right, but I wouldn't know how to "administrate" it (what does that even mean?) or start something from scratch (I don't know the basic framework)

I would just look at stuff and how it was laid out and copy/switch from different examples and Frankensteins the hell out of my sites that I used to have.

I don't think thats enough to base a career on myself.
Okay, I'm not trying to be mean or condesending, but google.com is your friend. Investigate, search, look things up. You don't know what administrate means, here's an example of a class syllubus of Oracle Administration. Push yourself, not others. This means try to figure it out. Ask questions that clarify what you already know.
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Oracle Database 10g: Administration Workshop I Release 2
What you will learn:This course is your first step towards success as an Oracle professional, designed to give you a firm foundation in basic database administration. In this class, you'll learn how to install and maintain an Oracle database. You will gain a conceptual understanding of the Oracle database architecture and how its components work and interact with one another. You will also learn how to create an operational database and properly manage the various structures in an effective and efficient manner including performance monitoring, database security, user management, and backup/recovery techniques. The lesson topics are reinforced with structured hands-on practices. This course is designed to prepare you for the corresponding Oracle Certified Associate exam.

This course counts towards the Hands-on course requirement for the Oracle Database 10g Administrator Certification. Only instructor-led inclass or instructor-led online formats of this course will meet the Certification Hands-on Requirement. Self Study CD-Rom and Knowledge Center courses DO NOT meet the Hands-on Requirement.

Learn To:
Install the Database
Back up and Recover Data
Administer Users
Transport Data between Databases
Manage Data
Configure the Network
As far as going back to school, I thought about it many times. It's not for everyone. I paid $5,300 for Project Management Institute classes, PMI certified people average $125,000/yr. I'm paying that debt off almost done but I'm not recovering any of the $5,300 investment I made by getting a PMI job. After it was all said and done I realized I don't like Project Management any more than I have to do it. It is a tool for me yes, but it's not going to be the job I have in the future. It gave me some additional skills but I have yet to increase my salary from it. So far it is a negative for me since I'm now $5,300 in the hole from it.

School as an investment is somewhat a misnomer because unless you can get something out of it does it become an investment. Going to school so that you can be an Art Apreciation major doesn't necessarily translate to $$$ in your pocket.

Investing in any "tool" is a good thing if that translates to $$$ for using that tool. Otherwise, it's not neccessarily a good return of your investment dollars.

This was my "test" foray into going back to school via online classes. I considered it, but also considered the return I would gain in my current career path. I don't think I will go back to college, I hem and haw over it from time to time, when I look at the classes and idea of test taking, I don't think it attractive in comaprison to continuing to make money.

In simplest terms as a pizza delivery guy if your car isn't making deliveries it isn't making you money. You can upgrade the soundsystem, tires, and wheels, and it doesn't necessarily translate into more pizzas you can deliver. It may make you feel more comfortable, but after a day is done you still deliver the same amount of pizzas.
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